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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

This would seem more accurate to me if it said "Grandparents at 25". I'm the 25yo parent's age and for us, people were already considering whether they could afford 1 or 2 children with mortgage and childcare costs. I guess if we had the big screen TVs, cellphones stronger than computers, gaming computers, and cheap airfare around the world, many of us would have also decided parenting was much too expensive.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

I had 3 by 23 😁

Still have only 2 kids though

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

I already have 2 monitors (including my laptop screen because I'm primarily on laptop) but recently I tried using Google Earth on a desktop with a fast i7-13700 and a 1440p monitor and it was so immersive. If each pixel was 100m, I could see 256km, all with minimal hiccups.

It reminded me I want a big 4k Monitor for this stuff, maybe even of TV size.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

just bought a third yesterday...

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 18 hours ago

Nothing fancy, some generic 2560x1440 Acer IPS

I have a 4k OLED w/ HDR for gaming or whatever my main activity is, a second 2560x1440 for background videos, but I want a vertical monitor for terminal outputs and documents. Also just more space when I'm juggling a lot of windows

[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

At 35 I got my third!

...27" curved screen with 144Hz and HDR...

[–] M137@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Here in Sweden I'm experiencing this with both older and younger generations. I know no one my age that has a kid, but so many younger generations have at least one. My little sister has two, and most of her friends do too. It's weird.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

that's wild. i wonder why the younger gen had that shift. how does that difference affect you? do you have kids? where do you feel left out?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

My little sister has two, and most of her friends do too. It's weird.

I suppose that makes sense. Support has gotten much stronger, in the last decade or two, for using multiple monitors.

Breeder rhetoric targeted at kids that grew up with Web 2.0.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 0 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The world is already overpopulated so

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

is it though? pretty sure that's yet another false narrative disseminated in service of the powers that be, but carried by well meaning liberals

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

I think so, yes.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

A faultering population can be a factor in societal collapse depending on the manpower required to run the society's infrastructure.

What happens when there's not enough people to man the power station that runs the car plants that pays the workers to allow them to go buy a cup of coffee? It's all interconnected.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Have you heard of neverending legacy? Its a (mostly unfinished) webgame by orteil42, creator of cookie clicker. Overpopulation is the real problem in the endgame, and its incredibly hard to cull the population without everyone dying of hunger.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago

Gonna need to push that space exploration budget instead of constantly going to war.

Then again, having more planets would mean a larger desire for power and greed would easily spark a space war.

Either way, humanity isn't the perfect race.

/End rant

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Here is a good video I watched just this morning that may change your perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Baby: costs thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars over a minimum of 18 years

Monitor: shows memes and games, costs a few hundred dollars for a good one, one time purchase

Obviously the child is the stupid financial decision

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It depends on where you live. Believe it or not, kids still care for their elderly parents in some nations.

[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Are you telling me that you have kids only they can clean your ass and shit when you older? And people here on dbzero is giving you positive feedback?? Wow... Fucking hypocritical people when it's a rich the egotistical bastard so eat the rich but when is a normal person you celebrate it, such a clown show.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Guess someone doesn’t like to clean their parents’ doodoos.

[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

I will be honest, if I should do it, I don't think I would last a lot, I am thinking in escaping on that future...

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the key to this scheme working, however, is that you raise your children in such a selfless way that they would want to take care of you when you have nothing more to offer them. Which is to say, the only way this method works is if it’s not a “method” at all, just love.

Edit: inb4 honor culture. In the places you likely refer to, uncared-for elderly are considered a great dishonor. But also in these places, differences in social infrastructure and the parameters of personal finance significantly augment the decision. In short, it’s still a net cost of time and resources to raise a child, a balance that can only be paid by love.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m sure my daughter would want to. The problem is it’s completely unrealistic in the US. When I’m too old to care for myself, I’m going to insist on a nursing home. Hell, the LAN parties are going to be great by then.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s true. These days the average household income in the US isn’t enough for the added costs of elderly care without the supplement of social security and other programs. That trend only worsens.

I’m optimistic, however, that this will change as the differences in generational attitudes towards socialism are reflected more strongly in governmental policy. The baby boomers are already losing their grip on the levers of politics, and the millennials, in particular, are much more friendly to social policies.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That’s true, although this administration is perfectly timed to siphon off the largest wealth transfer in US history with the demise of the boomers.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

True, though statistically it’s just cleaning the plate, as global elites have had their fill over many decades. Once people finally decide to stop pointing fingers at each other and unite against this scourge, there will be nowhere to run.

Afterward, global economies should stabilize and nations which start this process early will, I suspect, see much growth during the global recovery, so here’s hoping americans have some revolutionary spirit left.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My concern on that front is trust. After electing Trump, Biden, Trump, our allies see the US as a rocking ship. Our allies’ trust in us will take more than a term to regain.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 13 hours ago

For sure. I imagine it will take far more than one government/term to rehabilitate and repair international relationships (decades, I’d wager) but I think within our lifetimes we’ll get to see it!

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Making a life-changing decision - for more than just yourself - on the assumption that they will want anything to do with you in 40 years is, how do I put this... stupid as fuck?

And that assumes they also are able-bodied, of sound mind and judgement, can care for any others financially...

My folks are getting up there in age, and I'm not getting any younger myself. They are religious, I'm not. I'm LGBT, they are bigoted. I can understand the big picture of caring for others through community, they don't. They are still very capable and mobile, I'm disabled. What side of the fence do you think I'm on?

They could have just used a fucking condom. They should have. They didn't.

[–] ReplicantBatty@lemmy.one 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mom would straight up tell us we were supposed to take care of her when she got old, it's literally the only reason I was ever given for why I was made. For that and other reasons I'm no-contact now, but it's an incredibly toxic mindset and even worse that you're inflicting that on your kids.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

My mom had moved to the guilt phase, "none of you kids will take care of me when I'm old"

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

I took on a second, what have I done.

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Me at 35: well at least I don’t live on the streets

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everyone here talking about second somethings. All I want to say is this is the baby with the most developed jaw, nose and brow that I've ever seen in my life.

Things really were different during our parents' times.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Born a Chad like his dad, grew up into a Wojak like his mom.

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