This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
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kamala Harris, as a da, locked people up and refused parole to keep them as slaves fighting fires.
mod says it's misinfo (probably without fact checking) and removes the comment
update:
idk how I was doing mod abuse
PTB, everyone here defending the mods and Harris are foolish.
Libs gonna lib. Their primary concern is violently maintaining power so ofc they gonna support prosecutors, prisons, slave labor, etc.
Ah yes those notoriously violent liberals
Look, that's the entire reason I disliked her as VP and as a candidate.
But the words you used, the way you used them do not accurately represent the facts of the matter.
So, yeah, it's misinformation. When someone bends facts, that's exactly what it is.
Hyperbole being presented as fact is just another form of misinformation.
Since the only action taken was removal of the comment, I can't see any power tripping, just a difference of opinion about the precise definition of what makes up misinformation.
I can't fully say YDI in this case, because you clearly weren't acting in bad faith to break a rule.
But it also isn't a clueless mod either.
It's somewhere in between those two. The comment being removed was a justifiable action. If they'd done anything at all beyond that, it would have been over the line, but they didn't.
Well, that screen shot does change things to a degree.
However, we have no way of seeing any reports you sent, or any messages with the mods.
Since both of those are cited as reasons for the ban alongside the comments, there's a couple of ifs involved.
If those two reasons are accurate enough, then it would switch it entirely to YDI for the ban alone. You go around fucking with reports, you get banned, and you should be. But, again, nobody here can see that, so that's a giant IF.
If the only factor was a claim of misinformation, I'd call PTB because the mod log does not back up a claim of repeated misinformation. Nor does your user history. The links you've posted, the comments you've made in the last month or so don't have a pattern of misinformation at all, though you do have a habit of hyperbole that might read as pushing an agenda. IMO, that's only a problem if you're going crazy with it, or you're beating the drum in inappropriate communities, and I'm not seeing that happening.
But, because the ban cites behaviors we can't see, it doesn't serve to change my opinion on the original matter of the removal. The removal itself, not power tripping. The ban might be, but it could also be totally justified.
I will say that it is entirely possible that the mod in question could be exaggerating those other reasons, because that kind of thing does happen. But that makes the ban as evidence of power tripping useless.
Disputing the early release of prisoners is different than 'locking people up' and people in her office advocating against early release is something that can be attributed to her because she is ultimately reponsible, but is not the same as her refusing to let them be paroled.
What you said is that she put people into jail and forced them to fight fires, which is not what happened.
What you posted was literally misinformation. YDI.
Also, fuck Kamala Harris.
Relevant:
In 2014, as overcrowding persisted, a three-judge panel in California ordered the state to make eligible for parole nonviolent prisoners with only two felonies that had served half their sentences. Harris’ lawyers argued early release would harm the prison’s labor program, which included its work program to help fight California’s wildfires. The judges rejected the argument.
Criticism against Harris resurfaced after her announcement for president last month brought heightened scrutiny. In 2014, Harris told BuzzFeed News she was “shocked” to learn about what her lawyers were arguing in court.
PTB. OPs comments are factually correct, even if they are too unpalatable for a liberal audience to accept. We have to assess politicians by their behaviour, not by their lies, and on that basis Kamala absolutely supports the US prison industrial complex aka slave labor. As do all establishment Democrats, who have helped foster this disgusting industry just as much as the Republicans have.
OPs rhetoric on this is actually very chill, considering.
Yeah OP is trying to be clowned on but all it shows is that the flat.world libs are upset at someone calling out bad people doing bad things.
So what, she is so utterly incompetent that she doesn’t even know what her own lawyers are doing?
Give me a break. There is no way she was not informed at the time.
I'm not really here to argue about us politicians, I just felt that as OP didn't provide any sources someone should. I even went with a right leaning newspaper to make it fair to OP.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
The "political" mods of lemmy.world always call inconvenient facts, "misinformation". They're trying their best to reproduce the liberal fact-checker culture of around a decade ago where there were liberal nannies evaluating posts for left wing thought and helping to maintain their walled garden of mainstream propaganda. There still are such nannies, of course, but they're more openly reactionary now. This kind of person thinks that if Snoped wrote an article about it, that's all there is to it.
Selectively incurious and intellectually lazy, the real impetus behind this form of liberalism is a simple contradiction: their entire political philosophy is predicated on them being a good and correct and moral person with good and correct and moral views, totally unassailable, but their beliefs are incoherent and often disagree with reality and they spend very little time actually learning and understanding the topics they weigh in on. And they're used to contrasting themselves with more openly reactionary people that are even less likely to be in alignment with reality, which really makes them feel good and correct and moral. So when presented with left thought, i.e. fsr more coherent and informed opinions, they have a little crisis in their identity and lash out, looking for some way to shore up the opinion they hold after all of five minutes of research. Failing that they just act like a big baby.
hexbear is back and busily improving fediverse
This is nn example of tone censorship... The mods politics and news subs engage in this shit to maintain favourable regime discusions. It is reddit 2.0
Just block those communities and use alternatives that's the entire point of fedi anyway.
YDI
i thought pre-emptively putting sources in when arguing with libs would at least shield me from getting my comments deleted over false accusations of disinfo but it doesn't. Not even the libbiest most mainstream sources can protect you, they cannot deal with their cognitive dissonance and so must completely mute one side.
It happens to me on the regular, even when I provide the most Media Bias/Fact Check-approved evidence.