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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 100 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well some of them voted Trump not because they were racist, but because they were sexist.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 76 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago

TBH I’d guess the Venn diagram is pretty nearly circular.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Even my racist older brother voted for Harris, because even though he is racist af, still is smart enough to know he'd be the victim of racism himself. (We are Chinese-American) He didn't want himself deported lol. Especially trump's "China Virus" rhetoric didn't sit well with him (nor me). He also voted Hillary in 2016, Biden in 2020 btw, he registers as a Democrat.

Had he been born in the US and were white, he'd probably voted trump. Votes for self-interest basically.

He's still ranting about "Black People" and "Mexicans" taking up benefits, I guess he was the type of person Harris was pandering to with the "secure the borders" rhetoric 🙄

Edit: Also, he's an asshole. Toxic af to me. Zero empathy. Claims that I'm "faking" depression. Just because someone is a "Democrat" doesn't necessarily mean they're a nice person.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

My mind boggles when immigrants (of different ethnicity) are racist to other immigrants.

You should’ve left the feeling of unbased racial superiority to the caucasians. We’re really fucking good at it.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

We are extremely tribalistic. Sociology teaches about ethnocentrism, and no human is immune to it if we are honest with ourselves. When resources are scarce or there are cultural differences, you'll always prioritize your nation, your tribe, your family if all other things are held constant.

Which is sad because we have enough resources to go around. We need to unite under one banner of humanism, somehow...

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We need to unite under one banner of humanism, somehow…

Provoke an alien civilization to invade us and we'll be under one banner and redirect the xenophobia against the extraterrestials 🤓

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's the same in the UK and I expect most other "westernised" countries. I'm from the UK and we have quite a large Indian population who mainly immigrated in the 70s. In my last job I worked with a bunch of second/third generation Indian immigrants before Brexit happened and they all hated the idea of more immigrants coming into the country. It's quite amazing how narrow-minded and selfish people are.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

There are people in Romania who complain about immigrants while their family is working in another country

Reminds me of UK PM Rishi Sunak getting surprised at the "Paki" racial slur used against him. I'm like: Dude, you're a conservative, what did you expect from your fellow conservatives?

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

Lighter Asians did it a lot in similar ways, with some similar reasoning. Pale "jade skin" and such has definitely been praised in China and Japan, and whitening of the skin with makeup goes back centuries. Negative treatment or "exotic" treatment of dark skinned Asians (especially Pacific Islanders) is kinda common too, and darker skinned westerners find it harder to live there and work there than white westerners.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 72 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Not all Republican voters are racist. I think of it more like a “Spin the wheel” of different types of bigotry (racist, homophobic, nationalist, transphobic, sexist, religious prejudice, the list goes on), which of course has a large section of “2 extra spins” for them to land upon.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not all Republicans are racist, but all of them don't think racism is a disqualifying factor. Which makes them just as bad.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you're ok with a racist as president, you're racist.

[–] oxysis@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago

Yep, if you are okay with racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/queerphobia/etc, you are racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/queerphobic/etc. No excuses for these people

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Couldn't agree more. Honestly it's absurd, in the US we've always had the worst racists act agahst and demand they aren't racist after vile racist acts, their bar for what qualifies as racism is usual several steps past murder one.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago

If there are 12 people eating dinner and laughing with a racist there are 13 racists on the table.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hey, I'll add another one: being forced to by your family

I've had my parents strongly tell me who to not vote. Bullshit like "We aren't telling you who to vote. You're an adult, and I believe you can make the decision yourself. I am only telling you not to vote Korčok, because that would be stupid. But I believe you aren't that stupid."

But hey, my father was also annoyed for me going there on my own, rather than with my mother at once (he didn't vote), because we're a family and must go everywhere together.
Sigh

If there's any Slovakian reading this, yeah, I voted for Korčok.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is there any way they would know who you voted for if you went together? It's all pretty private in the US.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nah. The voting is anonymous. I mean, the envelope including its contents has no unique information. If someone wanted to figure out who it belonged to, they'd probably have to resort to fingerprints.

Although, if you do scribble on something else, someone who's counting the votes may take a picture of the ballot:

"I choose (vote) you, Pikachu!"

[–] Sizing2673@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Not all Republicans are pedophiles either

However, the list is very long

https://goppredators.wordpress.com/

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Over the last few decades the GOP gradually dropped any pretense of morality taking the easiest path possible for coalition building: assembling the stupid, bigoted, gullible and conspiratorial, the least empathetic, the overworked and underinformed. They left conservative ideology back in the 80s and have won only by preying on these people’s weaknesses.

Until this year however, they managed to have enough 'adults in the room' to keep big business on their side so you gotta think big business this week is shitting their pants with the realization that the base has now fully overrun the party.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

It's not quite that.

The dixiecrats took over, the ones who are still enraged we took away Jim crow.

They have given the GOP a rabid base of racists who will support any economics because they don't know what the word means.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

trump i notice likes to look at half-naked photos of poser leaders like putin. I suspect most of Republican are closet.

[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

As easy as it is to be able to say “I told you so” and point the finger at those directly responsible for this current shitshow, I think we shouldn’t lose focus of the real issue/enemy: the ultra wealthy class.

I think ideally we welcome those who may have voted for the orange turd but are now regretful, give those people a community to be supported by once they are deprogrammed from the cult. Do that and united as a lower/middle class, there’s a decent hope to take back the US and start righting some wrongs. This is just optimistic and rose-tinted drivel but I have to cling onto some hope for a future. heavy sigh

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago

We only welcome them if and only if they over correct.

I.e. they start actively campaigning against Trump, publicly and without hesitation.

Because if they don't, they'll likely come out in 2026 and vote Republican again. And in the likely event that Trump goes for a third term, they'll just be racist again.

[–] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

They don't deserve a warm welcome. If we welcome them because they finally realized Trump is bad now... Then that's rewarding people for changing their mind because it directly affected them (which is a stupid way to make decisions). Na they need to be shamed and roasted and they should be willing to accept that because if they truly understand that Trump is bad, they should understand how fucking stupid they were. They brought this upon us.

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[–] bss03@infosec.pub 8 points 6 days ago

"Don't punish behavior you want to see."

I'm not saying they should get a cookie because they joined the cause, but as long as they stay in line, support them in order to hold the line.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I doubt many of those voters will admit their stupidity

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