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[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is why I don’t fuck guys who “don’t pay attention to politics”.

That means one thing, and it isn’t that they are blissfully unaware of the day to day happenings in their town, county, state, region, country, or planet of residence.

[–] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It depends on why they don't pay attention to politics. Personally, I kind of have to go ostrich-mode and bury my head in the sand when school gets stressful because I just don't have the mental bandwidth to deal with both. I'm not going to judge someone too harshly for protecting their mental health from the absolute shitshow that is the American political landscape.

PS: This is not to say that any degree of modern conservatism is okay. Bigots can go fuck themselves and I'd be out punching Nazis and being a medic at protests if it didn't jeopardize my future so significantly. (Felony convictions make it really hard to get a medical license and I have to pay off my student loans somehow. Besides, I'll be in a much better position to make a meaningful difference as a physician than as a heavily indebted student or EMT.)

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 1 points 1 year ago

this. you can pay little attention to politics without being a "centrist" who isn't actually a centrist. news can be depressing as fuck, i'm hella glad i strongly limited my consumption of them, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna start both-sidesing shit. (with the exception of tankies vs nazis, because those two are in fact the same authoritarian, anti-west, bigoted crap under different flags that love to larp against each other)

[–] ophelia@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is my go-to response whenever anyone wants to start talking politics with me. Mainly because whenever someone wants to talk politics it's usually not because they're liberal and I really hate talking with people who just want to prove that their opinion is the right one.

I'll admit I've used it for similar reasons. What I really should be saying is "I'm sorry, but I don't want to talk about this right now." Maybe I'll even be brave and say "I don't want to talk about this with you." but it's rare for me to find a person I don't want to hear at all from. That usually comes up because they've already made their arguments, and I've already accepted or rebuttal the points to my own satisfaction. At that point they'll talk themselves into circles looking for justification for parts of their stance, but unable to articulate it themselves. I'll listen to anyone's views at least once, given I'm in the right mindset, but I still wouldn't date someone I don't morally agree with. Life partners should have higher standards than conversation partners, and aligning values is a bare minimum for relationships.

[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eh, sometimes it means another thing, namely that they know their conservatism is off-putting to most women and they’re lying to get you into bed.

[–] Lunar@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good lord the replies to this are sad. Believe it or not it's a perfectly reasonable expectation to only want to date someone whose core beliefs align with yours (and, y'know, actually respects your rights as an independent human being.)

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

"in looking for a woman who will respect my core beliefs as an independent human being, which include not treating her like an independent human being"

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As someone with a right-wing father and a left-wing mother: for fuck’s sake date people with your same beliefs. Deep disagreement on something like that is NOT something you can build a trustful relationship upon.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Why won't women, objects meant to feed and pleasure me, give me the time of day like this super old-ass book I had read and interpreted to me by someone who is likely a child molester said they should? Do they worship Saytahn?"

[–] python@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course we worship Saitan, it's delicious!

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

protip: it's seitan

[–] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

ngl, last time some conservative started flirting with me she got pissed of when i said i wasnt interested because they were a tory flag shagger, and then she called me a slur because im queer

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck 'em. No wait, don't.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Wow I did not expect so many right wingers on blahaj zone. Feels weird

[–] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The hinges on the meat chasm closed for all conservatives on 24 June 2022.

[–] Nerdybynature@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The last conservative I matched with was immediately bragging about being unvaccinated, was in his late 30’s, openly religious, desperate for kids.

If you’re openly conservative, you’re baring your soul about women’s rights, and if women don’t want to sleep with you as a result, you made your damn bed.

[–] Kinda_Coral@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call that the free market economy biiiaaatch

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Conservatives: "The free market is superior! Deal with it!"

Conservatives when the free market decides against them: "THIS IS LITERALLY SOCIALISM"

[–] grissee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

posts like these make me wish lemmy has sort by controversial button

[–] Crunkle_Foreskin@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Treating people differently because of their beliefs? I'm not even that conservative, but you sound like the real bigots.

[–] Flag@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pffft, just means that your beliefs have consequences.

Something something tolerance paradox.

[–] Crunkle_Foreskin@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You realise that beliefs are a shifting scale, right? Not everybody with beliefs right of center are alt-right Nazis. I can't stand those people either.

I used to be similar to you, until I met people with a whole host of opinions. I wish you well.

[–] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

If 11 people agree to share a table with 1 nazi, you have a dozen Nazis.

[–] toaster@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

This kind of shit was a big motivation for me to leave reddit, and now it's already on Lemmy. Great.

You can have right leaning beliefs and not be a bigot. Hell, I'm not even right leaning but many of my friends and family are. They are not racist, sexist, transphobic.... This kind of post just makes the left look childish.

ETA: you can have conservative views and not vote republican. The republican party is a fucking joke.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, what we look like is people who've tried to give the benefit of the doubt for ages and gotten fucked for it. We've run out of benefit to give. Conservatives are actively hurting people in North America (probably elsewhere too) and we see ourselves and our children on the chopping block if we keep giving leeway. So we've stopped. You'll keep seeing more of this until conservatives stop hurting people. This meme is just a funny reflection of that. Maybe it's even gonna make some gears spin in some people's heads.

[–] kboy101222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly! You cannot support that party and be surprised when you get called a bigot. You're playing with pigs and you smell like shit, bud. Conservative values eventually turn into hateful ideology 100% of the time. Conservatism requires someone to blame for everything, and they never blame the people actually at fault, they blame minority groups that are easy to attack and exploit.

[–] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

it’s already on Lemmy

Lemmy was created by communists for communists, conservatives, "centrists" and liberals gtfo out

You can have right leaning beliefs and not be a bigot

the entirety of conservativism is openly classist, the entire ideology is built on ruthlessly attacking and stripping away protection for those most vulnerable in society. Besides, just because your family wont openly call me a slur for being trans it doesnt mean they aren't supporting a party who market themselves on wanting to strip away my rights. Frankly, you cant be pro-american at all without implicitly supporting the horrific crimes they have historically committed whether within their own borders or outside.

[–] nzodd@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

"Many of [your friends and family]" vote for legalizing racism, sexism, and now literally the attempted overthrow of the United States of America. If your friends and family vote for that and vote for taking away peoples human rights, they're terrible people. Maybe they're nice to you but they're actively ruining other people's lives. Your cowardice in continuating to associate with, tolerate, and defend these people and their evil behaviors is childish. "But! but! some of my friends are in the Schutzstaffel, they can't be all bad!" Grow up.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

There's always Voat you can try, it should line up better for you.

[–] apis@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

If right-leaning, but not bigoted, there is a lot of space within the Democrats for that, and always has been.

Which is less than ideal, as the GOP remains populated by a mix of extremists & the grossly inattentive, Democrats yanked well to the right of centre, and the left utterly stymied.

But, the point remains that if someone is turning a blind eye to the harm being waged against their fellow Americans in favour of some nebulous lean (which the GOP's consistently do not bother to address anyhow), then arguably they are far worse than a bigot, who at least one can consider to be haplessly hate-filled, rather than blithely lending support to the hate-filled.

[–] Lunar@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Your friends and family might not be vocally bigoted, but actions speak louder than words and if they're voting for a party that platforms on racism, sexism, and transphobia, then they are bigots. I hardly think it's childish to avoid dating someone who would support a party that wants to strip your rights away.

Also, Lemmy has always been like this. You came to the wrong fuckin' place, my dude.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Please grow up.

[–] Limes@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, the "holier than thou" attitude is really gross. I was hoping this was going to be less of an echo chamber than Reddit but it's starting to look like it's worse. Let's blow this popsicle stand bro I'm out of here

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao bye Felicia

[–] Lunar@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

bye-bye 👋

[–] rebelappliance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This post doesn't mention bigotry, racism, sexism, or transphobia. So what are you talking about?

[–] nzodd@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

One of the most self-damning things about Republicans is how quick they are to start defending allegations of bigotry, racism, sexism, transphobia, treason against America, etc. upon the first mention of conservatism, without noticing that they're usually the first to bring up those topics. It's almost like the very concept of conservatism and bigotry against people for their "station" at birth are inseparable, and any attempt to pretend otherwise is just that: pretend.

[–] lemmychatwitpeeps@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol making up arguments in your head again?

[–] Crunkle_Foreskin@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pure projection. They put up a wall thinking that they're the ones choosing, but they're actually the ones that aren't attractive to others because of the black-and-white way they see the world.

[–] Dominojack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything they bitch about is a projection