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[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 44 points 8 months ago

"population transfer" Is a very strong euphemism for genocide and mass displacement.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 8 months ago

Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios. It's not surprising that Israeli government does the same. These documents are usually held quite secret, because they're inflammatory, they go through many different scenarios, many of which are politically unpalatable.

What's really interesting, is that this document was released now. Almost like it's socializing the concept, testing the waters before the plan is committed with its allies.

And of that document option c appears to be being implemented right now in front of us.

Is the document genuine? Probably, I've seen sources from Canada Israel and other parties saying the document has been acknowledged by their sources.

Is the document itself a cause for concern? No.

Are the actions we're seeing in real time, and the timing of the release of the document concerning? Very much so.

Everything hinges on Egypt's cooperation. And I don't know how Israel is going to compel that.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Maybe we're watching a constructed drama unfold in real time?

Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we'll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they're getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.

Could be

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Egypt is reluctant because Palestinians refugees have caused trouble before in their country, the economy isn’t doing well and they have high unemployment at the moment—that’s three good reasons to be reluctant that make sense.

[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ya. The CIA has had everything from assassinations to drugs in the water for large populations. They even did those things as well. Things can get dark when you focus on protection of your said country and assume the worse of your enemy imagined and real.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Some of the documents can be kind of interesting and fun: I'm sure Denmark has a plan to repel a Canadian invasion of Greenland.

And I'm sure Canada has a plan on invading Greenland, if it should become necessary... Critical ice purposes

[-] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The US media will ignore this blatant call for ethnic cleansing and paint Israel as the good guys in this. The mask has come off the West's colonialist support for this racist apartheid state.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 2 points 8 months ago

It's been off

[-] ashar@infosec.pub 15 points 8 months ago

This is a continuation of the ethnic cleansing that Israel has carried out for the past 70 years. No big surprise.

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[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

The same way the Turks tried with the Armenians in ww1?

[-] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Yes. The same way the nazis did it, the same way Russia did it in Ukraine, the same way many other authoritarians and fascists did it. I'm failing to see the point of mentioning it though. Forced displacement is a violant of international law no matter who does it.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I just wanted to be sure we have similar views on it

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Dont forget Indonesia

[-] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

were they mostly successful?

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Depends on your PoV. Up to 1.5 million Armenians out of up to 2.1 million died.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago

Israel is in Asia and not in Europe.

Egypt is not going to allow this. The simple fact of the matter is that Hamaz is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which are openly hostile to the current Egyptian government. So the killing is going to continue.

[-] febra@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Yes, Israel is in Asia, what's with that?

[-] Paul@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

you posted this in the europe community

[-] febra@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There have been countless Israel posts on here. Also the extra activity on here can't hurt. Why does the presence of this post bother you? Just scroll over it

[-] febra@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The existence of the document does not necessarily indicate that its recommendations are being considered by Israel’s defense establishment. Despite its name, the Intelligence Ministry is not directly responsible for any intelligence body, but rather independently prepares studies and policy papers that are distributed to the Israeli government and security agencies for review, but are not binding.

So what

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