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After this announcement, I am planning to reject meetings organised in zoom. But the problem is that it’s really good. So, is there any privacy friendly and viable alternatives to zoom? It does not have to be open source because I nearly tried all alternatives. Your experiences?

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[–] Duh@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jitsi is an alternative that works fairly well.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've found Jitsi to be a great replacement. The only shortfall I found is that most folk don't know about it and can be resistent to trying it.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago

But it works in a web browser. So you can just send them the link

[–] dumptruckdan@artemis.camp 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried it on the browser on my own and it seemed to work okay at first glance. I haven't tried the app due to the 3.8-star rating on Google Play that is actually closer to a 3-star rating when you account for the fact that half of the 5-star ratings look fake. Main complaints seemed to be sound and video quality and getting disconnected. The fact that anybody can just come into your session if they guess the room name correctly isn't optimal either. Overall it feels janky, or maybe I am spoiled. I could be spoiled.

[–] bug@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

The fact that anybody can just come into your session if they guess the room name correctly isn't optimal either.

If you ignore the warnings about an easily-guessable name, ignore the option to use a waiting room, and ignore the suggestions to use a password, yeah.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

You can set the session in lobby mode wheresomeone has to be accepted or you can require a password to join. Its not a bad app, or at least the version from fdroid.

[–] privacyfalcon9899@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

When the number of participants is above 15-20, and you need to share screen, it’s not stable. So, people always complained about its quality when I sent an invitation.

[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really like Jitsi Meet and use it for any video conference calls. And Signal for one on one calls with friends and family.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For what it is worth, the FSF uses Jitsi Meet too and put up their own instance.

[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That's great!

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want privacy-friendly, you really do want something that's open source. Jitsi is probably your best bet.

[–] Shaul@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

You beat me to it for recommending Jitsi.

[–] privacyfalcon9899@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago
[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For the FOSS stuff Nextcloud talk, OpenMeetings, and Briefing seem to be the other ones people have not mentioned. Not used any of them. Nextcloud seems interesting if you already use Nextcloud for other things.

Frankly I would personally look at Jitsi Meet, or Wire. I have used Jitsi Meet a year or two ago. I did not find it as stable as Zoom on my setup. I liked it in every other way. Also it uses WebRTC in the browser which means that the browser needs to be configured to use WebRTC and some browsers have typically worked better then others. I do not think Jitsi Meet is e2ee though. I mention Wire because it may be e2ee (check). BigBlueButton is pretty well known too but I have never used it. Keep in mind not many conferencing solutions are e2ee.

Element/Matrix is the other tech I hear people talk about a lot. Not sure it is really a meeting alternative though.

[–] PublicLewdness@burggit.moe 2 points 1 year ago

Jitsi would be my choice.

https://meet.jit.si/

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Proton Mail uses PGP which depends on which cipher both recipient and sender, sharing PGP keys are also problematic. PGP doesn't encrypt subject line but Tutanota does. Tutanota uses AES-128 and RSA-2048 for their encryption and uses AES-128 for external encrypted email which Tutanota and Proton Mail also supports.

[–] ncoca@social.coop 1 points 1 year ago

@privacyfalcon9899 I've been using https://meet.coop/ for nearly 2 years, find it better than Zoom. Runs on BigBlueButton.

[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tutanota first use the user password to generate an AES key using BCrypt, that AES key is then used to encrypt the private key. The encrypted private key and hashed AES key is then sent to the server, hence the server does not store nor know the private key and the hashed AES key is used to authenticate the user. It uses SHA256 for hashing, it's safe because the hashing algorithm is one way only and not reversible, meaning you can't convert the hash to the password but only the other way around the password can generate the hash, so even the server is compromised it doesn't gain access to your password.

[–] somedude@lemmy.ninja 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Laitinlok@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Subject lines and recipient/sender email addresses are encrypted but not end-to-end encrypted for Proton Mail.

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're good with mega corps like Zoom, then I'd say Google Meet has been perfectly fine for us as a company. There's also Microsoft Teams.

If you're looking for something to use on a personal level and not corporate, then you've got pick of the litter.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Also for the commercial guys, GoTo Meetings and Cisco Webex are pretty well known.

[–] dingsbums@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Wire is open source and e2ee