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I bought 4 tickets to Taylor Swift for my girlfriend and her friends and paid $407.57 total after all of the bullshit Ticketmaster fees.
~$101 per ticket isn’t cheap, but $900+ per ticket is either scalper/resale prices day of the show, or for some fancy VIP tickets, or just a made up number.
Note that the only source listed is bls, and I am pretty sure they don't track concert tickets 🤔.
lol yes exactly. Kind of hilarious and stupid that they reference BLS as a source, which I’m assuming they meant for the minimum wage figure to calculate the hours, but they also don’t show what that minimum wage figure is on the infographic….
Just a really poorly crafted piece of rage bait designed to do exactly what it’s doing here - piss people off so they share it.
If it's any consolation I am still annoyed that you had to pay $100/ticket.
Yeah I can’t think of a single artist off the top of my head that I would personally pay that much to see, but it made my girlfriend happy and that’s worth $100 to me any day
Prime MJ mightve been worth the $100 in hindsight, that dude was built different
Taylor Swift chose to list on Ticketmaster with full knowledge that those fees would be included.
They sometimes don't have a choice. But also fuck Ticketmaster https://youtu.be/-_Y7uqqEFnY
They always have a choice lmao
The large venues usually have an exclusivity deal with a ticket seller like Ticketmaster or AXS. So if they want to play massive stadiums, no they don’t have a choice but to use Ticketmaster. It’s on the venue, not the performer.
Taylor is big enough where she could have made a better/different deal. I'm sure slightly smaller venues would bend over backwards to have her, this was purely a greed thing.
That’s not really how the corporate world works. There’s billion dollar contracts involved that are much bigger than one artists tour. No matter how big they are. It’s use Ticketmaster, or you can’t use our venue. Full stop.
You're making a statement without addressing the heart of the discussion. Artists like Taylor Swift are much bigger than Ticketmaster. If she actually used her platform and her voice to go against TM, she could effect a real change. But she (and so many other big artists) choose not to
More info about the price
"life is short and tomorrow is not guaranteed" is FOMO propaganda.
Okay so they used resale prices, AND based it off of average ticket cost for a show in San Francisco, one of the highest COL areas in the country?
That’s not making the logic they used any more sound….
They didn’t use the resale price, they mentioned how the resale price was 17 hundred. Also, all the prices are based in Cali for what I can see. So the point of capitalism driving the prices higher stands. Why are you so fervently defending capitalism?
I’m fervently defending not posting misinformation. Don’t get it twisted.
It is not misinformation based on the historical data of ticket prices of the region they are using. Your rant is to invalidate their point and to argue that capitalism isn’t as bad as the graph is showing.
You have no data to confirm that the historical data on ticket prices they used is also specific to the Bay Area, only the Taylor Swift ticket price.
You shared this because it aligns with your world view without taking a moment to consider the validity of the data, which is perfectly ironic considering how full-throated you are to try and make a piss-poor argument that I’m somehow trying to be an apologist for capitalism because I dared to challenge data that’s obviously incorrect.
Capitalism is plenty bad for a myriad of reasons, it doesn’t require false information to prove that point. Hyperbole does not strengthen an argument, it weakens it.
Do some self-reflection.
“Do some reflection” is so ironic from someone who kept repeating that they were using scalper/resale prices when the data right there said that those prices were higher than the ones that they were using in the graph $900 vs $1600.
It is more that the graph doesnt align with your world view and you are looking for excuses to tear it apart just so your point of view stays unshaken. That is shown by the fact that I provided the description that said that the price of resale tickets that they encountered was significantly higher than the one they used, yet you blatantly chose to ignore it, on the reply to the description. You didn't do any critical analysis. Yet you are here preaching me about critical analysis.
You say that capitalism is plenty of bad yet you keep undermining its effects. Sounds like revisionist bullshit to me.
It took two hours of working minimum wage to buy an Elvis ticket ticket.
Elvis ticket cost in 2023 dollars: $31
But minimum wage is $7.25/hr, so $31 is more like four hou... oh wait.
They meant back in the day it took that time
I know! The point is that we're seeing the combined effect of ticket prices increasing relative to inflation and minimum wage falling relative to inflation, compounding the unaffordability.
I bet you'll see a pretty tight correlation between rate of ticket price increase and rate of population growth. This isn't a "capitalism ruined X" problem. It's a "too many people" problem. When supply is so far outstripped by demand of course prices soar.
more population means more artists and artistry, which means more concerts, but please go ahead and make this about "overpopulation"
Sure but this chart refers to the most popular artists of a given time period. Regardless of how many concerts there are, there will always be one with the most demand.
If you could find data on the median ticket prices or something like that, you may have a point.
my point was it doesn't have to do with population as much as it has to do with capitalistic demand and monopoly/cartel dynamics
Yes, but there's only one Taylor Swift and she can only perform for so many people at once.
You can still to see less-popular artists for a few bucks, but for the mega-stars the population increase is absolutely a factor because the supply can't be increased while the demand is growing
Taylor Swift is often doing three stadium shows in cities she is visiting. Her tour capacity is huge.
She's not doing 3 times as many shows as previous artists though. Doing 3 shows in one place means she's not doing 2 others elsewhere.
Lol @ the eco-fascisms dogwhistles these freaks bring 😂
Monopolies is what causes this. Capitalism is just the enabler. But don't kid yourself if you think the rich don't gatekeep certain things in "communist" countries.
There aren't any communist countries, only a handful of states run by communists, who don't even claim to have reached socialism yet.
The problem is the commodity form – goods and services made for their use value and their exchange value. This is a problem in the states run by communists. They don't claim otherwise. Neither does any Marxist.
The world is currently dominated by imperialists. According to Marxists, imperialism is the 'monopoly finance' stage of capitalism, which is what you identify.
In a society that doesn't make commodities or which protects certain goods and services from the logic of commodities, the 'gatekeeping' of art (or any other good or service) wouldn't need to happen.
Art under capitalism, like everything else – food, shelter, clothes, air, water, etc – is commodified. This has awful consequences, which affects every commodity-producing society.
The 'communist countries' have only started on the path to abolish the commodity form. It will take decades to complete, maybe a century or more, and is unlikely to be fully achieved before the world is communist.
Why is Taylor Swift so popular? She sings well but I don't get the hype.