Drawing a direct line up the suffragettes is genius. History will prove them right
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Hardly anyone argues again their cause being right. I’m not sure history will show that their campaign did much else than promote the misguided view that environmentalists are arseholes
..a lot of people do argue against their cause, though, is the thing. We cannot wait for change to happen, we gotta force some hands.
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people constantly argue against their cause being right, because their cause is we need to work on fixing the problems as much as possible and governments are not doing that
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I don't understand why they keep targeting art. Wouldn't smashing car windows (for example!) make more sense?
Throwing paint on buildings owned owned by oil companies make more sense, but it never reach the news.
They have also targeted luxury car dealerships. People said the exact same things they always say when they do anything.
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Art is an investment rich people use to stay wealthy, I think it's symbolic. They're in a ln odd way attacking institutional wealth, which tracks for an organization that calla themselves "Stop Oil."
I don't know that this is their take, but it's my reading on the repeated choice to attack fine art.
As a poor person who loves art in many mediums, this is a pretty bleak and depressing take. Yes some art is that, but there's a reason people travel from all the world over to see the Sistine Chapel or the Eiffel Tower. There's a reason poor people feeling like their voice isn't heard pick up a pen or a brush, or film, or a spray can, etc.
Art isn't only that though and if that's the point it's going to go unnoticed and unrealized by most people rendering any symbolism or point moot. A circlejerk where people pat themselves on the back on the oh-so-deep symbolism and historical callbacks is not going to change anything but the brunches of some pretentious assholes who think they're saving the world when they're actually doing more harm than good.
This is more like protesting the fur industry by releasing the caged, tortured animals into the wild to wreak more havoc as an invasive species to the enviroment and ecosystem they're released into, but at least people can cheers themselves for making a difference.
Because art gets them more publicity. Also if they are going around smashing car windows then they are liable to thousands in fines due to criminal damage, turn the general public against them even more so than they already are and it will likely legitimise tough laws being created against this group.
... do you think they aren't going to be liable for damaging art that is worth as much as or more than most common cars?
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That would be attacking the public though. Destroying Art is something that is technically accessible to all, but practically only studied and coveted by the wealthy (who have time and financial assets to pursue it)
I'm guessing it's a class/luxury thing. Cars are mostly owned by workers; smashing them puts the cost on those individual workers.
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Why do they hate oil paintings so much?
Just a misunderstanding. This group is Just Stop Oil (paintings). They hate the medium.
The other group is Just Stop Oil: the anti-oil, coal, and natural gas group.
Same name, so it's easy to get them confused.
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I find it funny that oil activists funny just go find a random piece of oil pipeline in the middle of nowhere to sabotage. Seriously, the things stretch for hundreds of miles, there can't be a shortage of isolated segments behind no more than a chain link fence at most.
There's actually a pretty good reason why they don't do that. Media attention. Most acts of activism are ignored. Only extreme things make it into the media (sadly). Anything short of blowing up the pipeline won't get them media attention. How do I know that? "Letzte Generation", a German activist group did shut down a pipeline, but nobody bothered to report about it.
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But that isn't just a little vandalism, that carries some serious criminal charges.
Dudes be like nooo stop trying to hurt the nice paper and go protest somewhere else so we can more easily ignore you
Putting the protection of art above what these people are protesting is both hilarious and also extremely depressing
But this is very easy to ignore, a bougie art gallery?
Go slash a ceos neck or something if you’re going to go to gaol anyway.
This gets just as much attention for much less jail time.
This gets almost zero lasting attention. CEOs start dropping like flies at the hands of angry citizens? Yeah, that's going to make a bigger difference.
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We could be seeing this soon tbh. Not that encourage it.
A lot of these goons are paid by oil to make environmentalists look bad, and they do a good job at it. Even if they are real, they are so pathetic that they wouldn't dare to do anything that would have an actual effect on the world like you said.
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Great job comprehending what you're reading.
It's a million times more depressing that the majority of environmentalist-minded people apparently see these publicity stunts as positive.
The arts are like one of the first things to go if shit will start to go down due to climate change
There is this specific absolutely beautiful instrument at the Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix, Arizona. It was made out of trash by people in abject poverty. The arts might change, but it's pretty damn hard to extinguish that creative spark people have.
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I love how civilization is irrevocably fucked by its own hand and there are still peasants at the ready to scold the desperate still clinging to hope somehow for defacing the apple cart in its race to oblivion.
"Herp derp we just need to keep doing what we're supposed to do and everything will be fine!"
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So switch to acryllic paintings? :) Who knew art supply fans were so dogmatic.
It's crazy that they have the right idea about direct action and yet are using it on the worst possible targets.
Disrupting an art museum will not stop pollution or inconvenience the fossil fuel industry.
Take advice from MLK: Be nonviolent, but get in the way. Use methods of coercion.
This is non violent, and is in the way, and is coercion? And it's exactly the kind of thing that King was criticized for doing.
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What the hell is a "safety hammer"?
A hammer designed to smash glass - it's a 'safety hammer' because they are kept in cars to smash windows in emergencies where people are stuck.
lol nice
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