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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Billionaires got no morals, why should I?

[–] xiii@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I volunteer in my free time so that more Russian occupiers will be eliminated. I’m very proud of myself.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 46 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

The number of people defending Lockheed Martin here is staggering, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the apparent makeup of Lemmy's population

I'll make this very, very simple: working for a well-known defense contractor who brags about making bombs is bad. Working for Lockheed Martin is unethical.

Working for a large corporation (Microsoft) that funds or supports wars (Israel) is also bad, but not as bad as Lockheed Martin, the company that actually builds the bombs that are bought with the dollars that Microsoft sends to Israel

Working for any company that could theoretically contribute economically to a war is bad, but not as bad as the previous two examples and is more or less unavoidable for working people

Paying any kind of tax (especially in the US) ultimately funds wars, and so isn't good either, but it's not as bad as any of the three above options, and no one can avoid it (except billionaires of course)

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Im not surprised honestly, and yes its seriously fucked up.

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[–] whats_all_this_then@programming.dev 20 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

"I refuse to work in defense. I'd rather my work wasn't used to blow anyone up" is a line I've used in multiple job interviews. I like to think the hell I end up going to at least has chilly weather and/or really good AC.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 54 points 16 hours ago (16 children)

I had a friend in a difficult position, deciding between high pay at Buy N Large or the opportunity to work on insanely cool shit for Death Inc.

Ultimately he chose Death Inc, and the reasoning was along the lines of "This might kill a hundred people, but at least it'll kill them specifically. I can't even conceptualize the harm Amazon et al. do on a global scale to entire populations without even trying".

Made me think. I didn't have a very good answer to that.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It should make you think about how your friend is in a brainwashed delusion.

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[–] valtia@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

those bombs will kill far more than just a hundred people, far more than he can ever conceptualize. the consequences of those deaths will shape the world more than the extra microsecond an engineer could shave off of an internal Amazon function

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Also, "if I don't make this thing that will kill a hundred people specifically, they'll just use something that kills more people with less precision / more casualties."

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Ah good ole ego.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 62 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department", says Wernher Von Braun.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Making rockets wasn’t his department either.

The US wouldn’t let Von Braun go testify at Dachau. To this day there’s a lot of whitewashing. But he knew how those rockets were made.

Arthur Rudolph’s crimes were so egregious, that after letting him build the Saturn 5, we decided to ask him firmly to leave the country. In 1984.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Don't say that he's hypocritical
Say rather that he's apolitical

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

And which benevolent corporations IS acceptable to work for?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe "work" is the actual problem. Maybe people shouldn't waste their entire lives serving murder profiteers. Maybe it's always been a garbage slaver system.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

no ethical consumption under capitalism etc etc but… there are companies that don’t make a profit by murdering middle eastern people

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago

That number is shrinking alarmingly fast

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