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they argued that the European Union (EU) should adjust its prices to better align with those in the United States.

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[โ€“] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Thanks Novartis and Sanofi for speaking up.

I'll add you to the Project 2025 list so we can avoid you at all costs in the future.

Fuck off.

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

Lol, nice try.

Also nearly no one pays Sticker Prices in the US.

They have to put a ridiculous price tag on it, in order for the Pharmacy Benefit Managers of the insurance companies to "negotiate" a "discount" (and for this service they earn a commission)

https://www.statnews.com/2024/08/12/some-inconvenient-truths-about-pharmacy-benefit-managers/

[โ€“] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 22 points 2 days ago
[โ€“] Spendrill@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about the EU declares all their drugs generics and sets up a factory to produce them cheaply.

[โ€“] smegger@aussie.zone 25 points 2 days ago

How about all countries do this

[โ€“] philpo@feddit.org 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not gonna happen - as most European states are having collective agreements for drug prices.

But both companies can respectfully go fuck themselves. Europe is happy to take back the subsidies especially Sanofi gets and use other suppliers.

Even better: we finally should get collective agreements for all of Europe, sadly Germany has fucked the pharma market over..

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

sadly Germany has fucked the pharma market over

What are you talking about?

Do you mean Lauterbachs stupid secret prices, which wasn't totally a corrupt gift in exchange of Eli Lilly promising to build a plant in Germany?

https://www.pharmazeutische-zeitung.de/geheime-preise-auf-druck-von-eli-lilly-150708/

[โ€“] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. That fucked over the whole (not only the)European market as a lot of smaller countried based their negotiation tactics upon the German results - both within but also outside the EU.

This small corrupt move for the social democrats in one single state will cost Germans, Europeans and patients all around the world billions.

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

For some reason he is still immensely popular. I never got it. He fucked up the German Healthcare System in the first place, and was in the board of one of the shittiest for profit operators for years. (Which also famously tried to circumvent the minimum wage in Germany)

[โ€“] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get it as well.

He is the one who actually is responsible for the fucking DRG fuckup. Literally his main work.

Unlike what he claimed in various talk shows he is not a real doctor. He did study medicine but did not start his junior residency (AIP) and never has worked as a doctor in his life - he was already a member of parliament when the requirement for people to do the AIP year was waived - one of the main reason being him...(That is unrelated to the general change in training, different rules). That doesn't count for me.

And he did a full 180ยฐ on literally everything he promised and demanded once he was in office,in terms of financing, COVID, everything.

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, the same with a single public health insurance. Directly after he became Minister, the Lobby Group of the Private Health Insurances invited him, and he immediately flipped and sang praises on them.

https://www.pkv.de/verband/presse/meldungen/lauterbach-pkv-ist-ein-unverzichtbarer-bestandteil-der-versorgung/

[โ€“] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

Tbf, the same lobby financed his institute for ages.

He is a con man.

[โ€“] dwazou@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When two wolves band together to offert you a piece of advice on the path you should follow in the woods, you should immediately become suspicious that something is not quite right

[โ€“] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

Haha...hahahaha. Please no.

[โ€“] Ziggurat@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

It's not because your neighbour smokes and drink that you should do so

Can't wait.