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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

There is no negotiation except 'quit your stupid shit and remove the tariffs'.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 hours ago

Chinese people aren't stupid. They will know the direct cause of any struggles caused by tariffs. Their citizens hating americans isn't really a problem for the CCP, they likely benefit from the resentment.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Cheeto man believes USA is major world power instead of genocidal empire in accelerating decay.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 48 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Ha ha, Trump is being called out by China for lying:

China also made it clear that talks should involve the cancellation of all tariffs it currently faces.

“The unilateral tariff increase measures were initiated by the United States. If the United States really wants to solve the problem, it should face up to the rational voices of the international community and all parties at home, completely cancel all unilateral tariff measures against China, and find ways to resolve differences through equal dialogue,” said He, the spokesman.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I hate it that the Chinese government of all sounds like the reasonable person in this room.

This is the same government that is execution genocide and you know, executing people for a host of mi or offenses, like being against the government.

Yet here we are.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago
[–] flynnguy@programming.dev 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not really pro-china on much of anything but I agree with them on this. Trump's tariff's are bullshit and he should be called out on them.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 4 points 7 hours ago

He was called out, Xi said, "drop the unilateral tariffs, and then we can talk."

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 13 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I wish EU was capable of similar attitude as China instead of digging our hole by trying to appease the Orange liar in chief no matter what.

[–] dmalteseknight@programming.dev 9 points 8 hours ago

China has the luxury of being a totalitarian state. Xi does not need to worry about upcoming elections. Unfortunately in Europe any moves that requires great sacrifice might be political suicide.

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

While I do think the EU is lacking the balls to do this, there's also some strategy to consider here. It certainly would be lovely if the EU would be more defensive, but also more damaging to the EU economy (at least in the short run, probably for a long time).

China is being painted as enemy number one, and there's long-standing beef between the countries. Trump lost or is losing the trade war, and needs to make himself not look weak. Meanwhile China wants to project strength internally. Whatever is happening between closed doors, China has everything to gain from humiliating the US at this point. Trumps incompetence is already evident, they just need to fuel the flames.

With the EU, the situation is wildly different. EU doesn't really want to project power, they want to project exactly as much power as is necessary not to seem weak but no more. It wants to show that it's a level-headed free trade partner ready to take the lead in the free world, the fairest and most stable market in the world.

...that's my take on it anyway. USE! USE! USE! USE! 🇪🇺

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What exactly do you want the EU to do or not do?

Because I don't see any country there trying to appease Trump. Except if you mean it as literally saying nice things, instead of doing something.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

For starters implement reciprocal tariffs. Which we only virtually did only to pause them to not anger the orange. Next, don't visit the orange nor start talking with him. It's like China says, he should start conversation.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The EU are implementing reciprocal tariffs, aren't they?

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

AFAIK not. They "wanted" to, but then paused them all together, while orange retained initial ones. 🤷‍♂️

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Classic Cluster B like behavior.