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I had turned targeted ads off, on Facebook and Instagram. I still got ads but they were not targeted based on my data. I could live with that

Today I got a popup requiring me to pick an option of either accepting targeted ads or pay the equivalent of €13/$14 for an addfree experience across all meta platforms.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you seriously believe that ad-free means they're not still tracking the hell outta you and aggregating from many sources you probably don't know about like Patreon and shit?

Edit: and on the subject of personalized ads, I find it more worriesome when you can't see whats going on. Its a weird paradox

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You are the ad, for Facebook to impress consumer oriented multinacionals

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You choose well, padewin.

Let the force flow through your ddos botnet

[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't know the power... of the Dark Web.

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[–] Kir@feddit.it 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I would happily pay (not for Facebook, but as a general consideration) if you would give me an ads free eperience AND stop gathering data from me.

[–] danileonis@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point what about donate to fediverse like Lemmy to get an ads free experence anyway but without beign forced by corps?

[–] Kir@feddit.it 13 points 1 year ago

That's what I am doing, actually

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The very fact that you're paying them means giving up your information.

[–] Kir@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yeah but it's not what we usually means when we talk about data economy, aren't we?

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not like your credit card and payment info tells you who your mother and the 50 most relevant people to you are

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[–] NabeGewell@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Oh man I get to pay AND have my data taken? Collected by the corporation and stolen by hackers? What an amazing company, truly the leaders of the future of the web Meta is

[–] burtek@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how the EU is gonna like those two options

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can think of a third option. Send me $20 and I'll disclose the secret.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Send me $10 and I’ll let you know if this guy is legit or not so you don’t waste your $20!

[–] sup@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Send me $9.99, one time payment, no subscriptions here!

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use code NOV2323 on my services to save an additional 15% off!

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[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Option 3 : Delete your FB profile, and live peacefully ever after 😀

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[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Pay or not. They will still sell your data

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I choose option three.

To fully delete your Facebook account, you would need to go through Facebook's account deletion process. I can guide you through the steps:

  1. Click on the account menu down arrow at the top right of any Facebook page in your web browser.
  2. Select 'Settings & Privacy', then click 'Settings'.
  3. Look for the 'Your Facebook Information' section.
  4. Click on 'Deactivation and Deletion'.
  5. Choose 'Permanently Delete Account', then click 'Continue to Account Deletion'.
  6. Follow the instructions to confirm the deletion.

Remember that once your account is deleted, it cannot be recovered. If you wish to keep the data, make sure to download a copy of your information before deleting your account.

If you're logged in, you can directly go to the deletion page using this link: Delete My Account

Just copy and paste the URL into your web browser's address bar. Note that you may need to log in to Facebook again to access this page.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The deletion isn't automatic/immediate if I recall correctly? If you accidentally log in within 30 days, they cancel deletion automatically.

[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

As I understand it, even after that they keep your data, just you can't access it anymore.

[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I choose death.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well, the third option is there too and seems the best: don't use Facebook/meta at all.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does anyone still even use Facebook? Aside from boomer parents? TikTok, not THAT'S a data mining platform!

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

For me, it's the main means of communication both for family, friends, hobbies and even work!

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Quite a few people I know ranging in age from 20s to 40s do. There isn't really a replacement with its defining characteristics:

  • One-to-many blog-like posts
  • Mostly for interactions between people who actually know each other
  • Most people have an account and at least occasionally check it

It's that last point nothing else can match. If I post something to Facebook, most people I know have a chance of seeing it. Five people I actually know follow me on Mastodon.

[–] jman6495@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is more than likely illegal in the EU...

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

I choo-choo-choose uBlock Origin.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

You should delete your account as mentioned here. The second step is creating a new account and pretending you're under 18. It will be free without targeted ads.

Repeat the process periodically.

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To add more context to it -

Meta is actually trying to ~~comply~~ circumvent EU's strict privacy policy.

Recently, The EU's top court said in July that Meta must first get consent before showing ads to users - a ruling that jeopardises the company's ability to make money by tailoring advertisements for individual users based on their online interests and digital activity.

Source: https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/10/03/meta-could-charge-facebook-and-instagram-users-in-eu-to-go-ad-free-to-comply-with-privacy-

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But it's not ads in general I personally am opposed. It's the fact that they have removed the option to show untargeted ads. I personally don't mind ads but now they force either parsonalized ads or subscription

It was not their livelihood that was at stake, but the potential for more profit

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Well, your decision to finally leave that hellhole is overdue then.

[–] jman6495@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This is more than likely illegal in the EU...

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The statement reads well, and I'll take them at their word, but if an algorithm exists to show you "relevant" content, they're collecting data and using it keep you on the platform.

This has been my issue with 'social media' for the past ten(?) years. As soon as Instagram switch the default from chronological to what it thinks you want to see, it's continued to be more and more shitified (so much that I no longer use it).

The beauty of the early days of social media was that it was real-time. I could see who was doing what right now. I could see what establishments were hosting events tonight. Instead, these platforms decided it was more to their benefit to show posts it thinks will keep you on the platform longer - to show you more ads. For me, this lead to finding out days later that things have happened I would have like to have done.

Wall Street run Social Media is garbage. Businesses, organizations, governments, etc., need to go back to publishing content on their own websites (or the Fediverse) and enabling RSS feeds.

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