And what will Germany do about it? NOTHING!
this post was submitted on 02 May 2025
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They can mass spy on them now and get a valid legal reason to ban them with proof
It's been led than a day chill.
I'm not super hopeful either, but this is already more than I expected, so we'll see where things go
Punch left as hard as possible.
entire AfD 'extremist'
No shit, sherlock, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
Have you even seen some of the mindblowing excuses people have for why MAGA people in USA are not necessarily extreme?
That it's for job security, or because of drug trade or all sorts of weird reasons that would absolutely be valid if they weren't based on falsehoods wrapped in fascism.
I'm actually quite surprised that the conclusion is that ALL of AfD are extremists. Maybe if USA had done the same with Trump, and he and his followers were concluded to be extremists, more would have been done to stop him?
But having it said in an official capacity is still important.
Absolutely.
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What does it mean if a democracy bans a party that the voters want to elect? Better to ask what failure of the system made that party popular in the first place. We have a similar situation in the US fwiw.
No need to play one off against the other. Yes, there are many things that need to change systemically. Yes, the AfD is a real danger and needs to be banned. Simple as that.
The paradox of tolerance. Parties that violate the social contract of mutual tolerance deserve to be banned.
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Ruling out foreign interference like astroturfing, genuine Opposition doesn't come from no where, it comes from suffering in most cases. Failure of elected governments to reflect on their own failure breeds it.
We had that situation in 1930s Germany and it was decided to address issues instead of banning Hitler’s Party even when they could.
Better to ask what failure of the system made that party popular in the first place.
In the case of the US, it was propaganda by a hostile country, and by malefactors of great wealth whose interests aligned with that hostile country. In the former case, an act of war; in the latter, treason.
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We had the dixiecrats whose entire position was wholly unconstitutional.
We have them still, but we had them before too.
That’s a good parallel - AfD like the Dixiecrats and now the GOP MAGA base have a geographical stronghold (in this case the “new states” of former East Germany)
An alternate future without German reunification is interesting to imagine, ditto one without a Aus Civil War where the south just seceded
Basically.
If we'd let the south secede, we'd have a glorious north, but poor Mexico would have to deal with methed-up rednecks attacking every time college-football season ended.
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This is what we need to do with The Heritage Foundation and MAGA in the US. The extremes are usually bad whether they're left or right.
No, it's not whether left or right. The right are the ones trying to put people in camps.
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Yet the neolibs are not good for the working class. We all got a long road ahead of us. Is everybody ready for conscription and ww3.