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Germany's spy agency BfV has labeled the entirety of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party as an extremist entity.

The BfV domestic intelligence agency, which is in charge of safeguarding Germany's constitutional order, said the announcement comes after an "intense and comprehensive" examination.

"The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order," the BfV said on Friday.

Hopefully this inspires the other parties to to start the process to see the AfD banned. I know the report might not look like much, because of how obvious the findings are. But previous attempts at banning them have failed because such an official report was missing. So maybe our political system starts getting its shit together.

As we say in Germany: Hope dies last

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[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 10 points 5 hours ago

AFD should be banned... Threat to democracy tf

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 13 points 8 hours ago

Learn from history and America. No half measures. If you're going to label them extremists, you also have to break them.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Greece banned golden dawn as a criminal organisation and while a lot of members splintered into other parties it was overall a success in nearly removing all their influence as a political organisation from Greek politics - so, overall banning the fascist party, at least in one instance, worked.

[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago

Wow W Greece 💯🙌🏻

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 23 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

"The ethnicity-and ancestry-based conception of the people that predominates within the party is not compatible with the free democratic order,"

Great news, but also ironic considering German uncritical support for Israel.

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[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pray they find a valid legal reason to ban them soon now that they can mass spy on them :)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They won't ban them. Half the German police are members

[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago

They will be banned soon

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 12 points 16 hours ago

"But previous attempts at banning them have failed because such an official report was missing."

Man, this is peak modern society, and the absurdity makes me laugh. I don't mean that in a derisive way, more in a "wow, making democracy work is haaard ". Hopefully this will lead to something positive though, even if I'm anxious that banning a party like the AfD may lead to some things worsening.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 78 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

AfD are Nazis in all but name. How is it they remain unprosecuted in a nation where swastikas and the Hitler salute are outlawed?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 40 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

They're not just nazis, they're nazis sponsored and funded by putin.

This is documented, but racists would rather support their literal enemy than dare accept changing their worldview in any way.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Plausible deniability but they do get in trouble pretty routinely. The last big one iirc was the poster with the two kids saluting each other to form a roofline with a kitchy caption about housing.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/afd-accused-nazi-symbolism-election-germany-hm8dv7nql

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"In trouble" in this case is bad press. OP was commenting on prosecution given other stuff that's illegal in Germany. Or did I miss someone getting arrested for the poster?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Iirc they asked how is it and the article goes into it and go figure it's the Elon "we didn't know no better" excuse. They just barely skirt what is and isn't legal and from what I hear they have a legal team that helps them stay just inside the law while still being outwardly nazi-esk.

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

One of the main contributors is probably that the last time they tried banned an extremist party on the right (the NPD) it didn't work because they didn't present enough evidence according to the courts, that made everyone involved hesitant this time (or at least that is the excuse they used). Or rather, it failed twice, once because they had agents within the party and the other time for lack of evidence. Obviously obtaining that evidence without running into the first problem again is tricky.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 12 points 21 hours ago

Small correction: the NPD was not banned because they were largely irrelevant. They had little to no influence on politics, which is why the court argued that a ban would be inappropriate.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 19 hours ago

YOU DON'T SAY

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago

Yet the neolibs are not good for the working class. We all got a long road ahead of us. Is everybody ready for conscription and ww3.

[–] nshibj@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

And what will Germany do about it? NOTHING!

[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 7 points 15 hours ago

They can mass spy on them now and get a valid legal reason to ban them with proof

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

It's been led than a day chill.

I'm not super hopeful either, but this is already more than I expected, so we'll see where things go

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Punch left as hard as possible.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 19 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

entire AfD 'extremist'

No shit, sherlock, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Have you even seen some of the mindblowing excuses people have for why MAGA people in USA are not necessarily extreme?
That it's for job security, or because of drug trade or all sorts of weird reasons that would absolutely be valid if they weren't based on falsehoods wrapped in fascism.

I'm actually quite surprised that the conclusion is that ALL of AfD are extremists. Maybe if USA had done the same with Trump, and he and his followers were concluded to be extremists, more would have been done to stop him?

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