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The Polish armed forces are training citizen volunteers how to be armed partisans, firing rifles and donning gas masks.

That's... not great. The program is apparently popular, so they are expanding its capacity so that every adult male receives the training.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

calm down dude who would invade Poland anyway

[–] Sdes01@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 hours ago

We need this is Canada to get ready for Trump's invasion.

Lots of people are buying guns to prepare.

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

An attack on Poland would immediately invoke NATO Article 5, drawing in the combined forces of continental Europe, the UK, the US and Turkey. The world wouldn't need to worry about it going nuclear, conventional forces would have the Russians back over the Belarusian border by lunchtime.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Mango Fucking Mussolini would abandon Poland like the British and French in 1939. Fuck Russia and the MAGAts, this German supports the European NATO members and especially our neighbors to the east. If the motherfucking Muscovites attack, I will request to be reinstated and do whatever I can to stop the filthy bastards.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

What else do we have left at this point?

[–] spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Unfortunately that's not necessarily what article 5 implies. It only states that the member nations will respond, not how exactly they will respond.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] attinio@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

They will send a strongly worded letter to Putin.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

This is what I fear will happen when Canada is annexed. The other NATO members will express outrage, but who's going to launch an invasion across the Atlantic against the most powerful armed forces in the world to liberate Canada?

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 7 points 14 hours ago

Then article 42 of the EU

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I would love to believe you but looking at the sleepy AF response when Europe decided to help Ukraine...

Yeah, no, Poland is a buffer. Again.

[–] lazyViking@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Oh damn, I wasn't aware Ukraine was part of NATO

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Ukraine not being a NATO member yet is most likely among the main reasons Putin had the balls to send troops across the border. There's absolutely no way he'd risk a full-on confrontation with NATO, because he knows it would be the end of the Russian Federation.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If you think the poles won't get betrayed I have a bridge to sell you

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

If Ukraine was NATO, we'd be out in all force already.

It is only because we don't have a defense treaty with them that we risk the NATO treaty if any NATO country decides to send troops. Since they are essentially deciding for every NATO country to enter the war then.

But if they attack a NATO country like Poland, then that is exact what NATO is designed for and nothing is risked.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Drones, teach them to fly drones.

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I just imagined a future where drones are so pervasive and advanced against current defenses, the only real defence would be a electromagnetic pulse. Even losing all other electronic means of communication, infrastructure, etc., at least the explosive and chemical weapons death swarm that was coming just fell to the ground. And guns and gunpowder will still work.
(Losing most all electricity is probably not worth the trade off, just a short thought)

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago

The stuff that the Brits recently tested is exactly an EMP pulse, though directional.

The thing is, you can harden the drones against that.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Wide dispersal EMPs are typically not that effective against smaller devices so drones with autonomous backups would be hard to effect in anything but a small area, even with a high altitude nuclear EMP.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Canada's new Liberal government, under threat of annexation from the US, is advancing a civilian disarmament agenda.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Source? I can’t find any mentions of gun control from Carney.

I know Trudeau went a bit hard on it but Trudeau’s gone

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-plan-border-rcmp-bail-1.7507110

Carney said a Liberal government would reinvigorate the assault-style firearm buyback program launched in 2020, shortly after the mass shooting in Portapique, N.S., which left 22 people dead.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't you guys just lure American forces into the woods and attack them like Ewoks?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

That's top secret defense information! We have a leak.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's not total disarmament, hockey sticks are effective weapons.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Poles ready to defend the country if those fears become a reality? A recent poll found that only 10.7% of adults said they would join the army as volunteers in the event of war, and a third said they would flee.

Understandable, but also kind of sad. Poland exists because its people fought back against authoritarian bastards.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, but due to gov fucking up and people struggling to make ends meet, patriotism fell a lot. Even a decade ago I'd say half of poles were patriotic and half weren't....and it fell hella lower than that.

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Poland is going to be the monkey wrench in the gears for Putin's plan.

I'm big on Poland.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

They're building bases close to the Finnish border. I almost feel sorry for them, but not really.

Joking aside though, if a new front opens it's highly likely it'll be here. Our politicians are already ensuring we have a plan, and ..we'll, we do.

If they want to fight us in the forests again I don't think it'll end like Putin thinks it will, no matter if it's summer or winter.

Their drones won't be as effective, and while they may well have a larger army now than when they started that'd change pretty quickly I believe.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

russia can barely handle ukraine; they're never going to bother w europe.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing bad ever came from underestimating your enemies right?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The same could be said for overestimating them, which can lead to defeatism.

I absolutely don’t see that as what’s happening here.

They’re simply taking a page out of Switzerland’s book, which is essentially “train literally everyone as a contingency, and make a public defense policy to bleed anyone white who tries to invade”.

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