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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 day ago

If people keep using cars as weapons, soon we’ll have to treat them like guns, and not regulate them in any meaningful way.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In case anyone finds the headline confusing this is what happened in order

  1. Rodney Hinton the older hit a much beloved semi retired deputy who was directing traffic for a college graduation. He is accused of doing so intentionally but the motive isn't specified. He was not accused of stealing a car nor did it have anything to do with any other specified crime. This is pending trial.

  2. Ryan Hinton, son of Rodney Hinton, was involved in a car theft. He and 3 others were caught in said car and scattered in 4 different directions when police made contact.

  3. During the chase police shot and killed Ryan whom they allege had a gun on him. Indeed a gun was recovered. Purported to be in possession of the young man who was shot.That said the body cam footage is alleged to show another officer yelling about a gun rather than the gun itself from the vantage point of the officer.

Questions:

Is Rodney guilty of killing the deputy on purpose? If so why? Was it instead an accident?

Did the officer that shot the boy know he was the son of Rodney?

Why did Rodney pull out a gun but not fire it?

Is there further evidence showing the history of the particular gun? Fingerprints on the gun? Body cam footage from the other officer that more clearly establishes the gun in the hand of Rodney?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

That is not correct. The events, as alleged, before someone jumps down my throat:

  1. Ryan steals a car
  2. Cops try to arrest Ryan
  3. Ryan flees, cops shoot Ryan
  4. Ryan's dad Rodney hits and kills an unrelated cop with his car
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Charged him with what? Dining on a succulent meal of revenge?

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

40,000 people a year are killed by drivers in cars. Many of them are pedestrians. Generally, as long as the driver isn't intoxicated, the death is chalked up as an unavoidable accident. That's what we have here. The man just didn't see the cop. His eyes were filled with tears and he was distracted. Such a tragedy the pig is dead. Give the grieving father a ticket for careless driving and a few points on his license that will go away in a couple of years. That's what would happen if it was one of us. #ACAB #FuckCars

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

While I am not defending Rodney, who is has not been found guilty of the charges, I cannot tell you what I would do if my child was taken from me.

I have a spouse and multiple kids. I have parents who still live. I have siblings. Intellectually, I think I would not murder my child's murderer and inflict extra harm on my family through my actions.... but that situation hasn't happened and I have no clue how I would actually react. Right now, my blood is boiling just contemplating it, though.

If I were a single parent of one child, and that child was killed, then I would turn into fucking Liam Neeson without hesitation.

edit: I finished reading the article after posting this. It's not clear that the officer Rodney struck was the same officer who shot Rodney's son, and seems to be unrelated from the wording. I feel for Deputy Henderson's family, and hope he wasn't an innocent who happened to be wearing the same uniform.

Police in the US regularly choose to escalate, and our politicians choose to keep firearms available. All these deaths are on Congress.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Our fucking country, where the life of a car is worth more than the life of a human. ACAB.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 180 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the kind of thing people do when they fully believe that there is no path to justice. If we ever held cops accountable, this wouldn't have happened.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 21 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Everyone exploding at this, but this headline seems written to stir controversy, and people don't seem to be reading the article.

Two key facts:

  • It's reported that the 18 year old who was shot and killed was pointing a firearm with an extended magazine at officers when he was shot (though yes, he was running away, so yes, it could have been handled better, but there are thousands of more cut and dry cases to be mad about).

  • The deputy who was killed may have absolutely nothing to do with what happened

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)

You're saying key facts, but there's no proof at this time that he was aiming a gun at the cops. The article makes that very clear. That has not been established at all. There's nothing that proves he even had a weapon. That's a claim the police made. But has not been proven. You should never ever take police statements as fact. Particularly when they so obviously have motive not to be truthful.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 45 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Key "facts" about your "key facts":

The cop that shot him CLAIMS the kid pointed the gun at him, but the video evidence contradicts that. In fact, he was prompted to shoot the moment he exited his vehicle by other cops hollering "He's got a gun!" He relied on their statements, not his own experience of seeing the gun.

The fact that the kid had a gun is automatically in dispute. ALL cops have throwaway guns to be used in exactly this sort of a case. The video does not show him with a gun, but one was on him when he was found? Highly suspicious.

This kid stole a car, which was recovered. That is not a death penalty situation. Nobody should be murdered over an insured car.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

but the video evidence contradicts that

The video evidence reportedly claims that. As far as I can tell it hasn't been made public yet.

Yes the police shouldn't be trusted, but neither should media being put out the same day. There hasn't been enough time for the media to actually get evidence and view it themselves. Any "facts" you see right now should be held to the same belief.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

I saw a clip of the kid running, and I didn't see a gun. So I'm not just parroting someone else, I am drawing my own conclusion based on my own objective research using original sources.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 20 points 2 days ago

key facts:

"reported that" "may have"

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago

I really don't think either of those facts mattered to dad. I think what matters is the reality that police are so rarely held accountable in even those cut and dry cases that there is no perception of justice at all.

[–] Trabic@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Things police claim" =|= "Facts"

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In fact, more often than not, things cops claim are lies. Because they are trained to lie about everything.

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[–] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 145 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

“Let me be very direct: We cannot allow individuals to flee from officers with a loaded firearm aimed at them,” she said. “When this happens, the outcome is almost always tragic. No one wins, and everyone involved is affected.”

Absolutely disgusting mindset for the police to operate in and it should be a condemnation of them, not an excuse for killing a fleeing person merely suspected of committing a property crime.

Armed gang murders member of the public (with the full intention of “investigating” themselves and finding they did nothing wrong), is shocked that public would kill one of their own, and expects the public to shed tears for their fellow gang member (who was really a great guy… every other gang member loved him).

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