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    Microsoft secured my files! (lemmy.world)
    submitted 1 day ago by yesman@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    Back in January Microsoft encrypted all my hard drives without saying anything. I was playing around with a dual boot yesterday and somehow aggravated Secureboot. So my C: panicked and required a 40 character key to unlock.

    Your key is backed up to the Microsoft account associated with your install. Which is considerate to the hackers. (and saved me from a re-install) But if you've got an unactivated copy, local account, or don't know your M$ account credentials, your boned.

    Control Panel > System Security > Bitlocker Encryption.

    BTW, I was aware that M$ was doing this and even made fun of the effected users. Karma.

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    [–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I just installed Manjaro on my daily driver over the weekend. My entire steam library just works. My dev tools all work(better) on Linux, and free office is nice and familiar. Fuck widows.

    [–] daftpuggi@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

    Give them time to mourn first, but then fuck widows :D

    [–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (18 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    When the public rejected this idea

    THIS is their response. They are still insisting on total control of our computers.

    [–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 4 points 17 hours ago

    Just wait until you learn about Intel's Management Engine...

    [–] VitoRobles 37 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    I don't know about that.

    Dumb terminal concept was more what Chromebook was doing.

    Microsoft is doing something even stupider.

    [–] jim3692@discuss.online 3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

    I think they want you to only use Windows and pay for cloud storage.

    By enforcing BitLocker and Secure Boot, they are trying to eliminate dual-booting (you don't need to dual-boot Windows/Linux anyway, as you can just use WSL2 /s).

    By enforcing disk encryption, in general, they try to force the use of cloud storage, by making data recovery nearly impossible. Most people are probably too lazy to buy external storage, and manually copy their files over.

    This guarantees 2 money streams. One from Windows's tracking/advertising and the other from OneDrive subscriptions.

    [–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    Data recovery isn't impossible. You can easily back up the recovery key. This is just typical Microsoft shit design.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-your-bitlocker-recovery-key-e63607b4-77fb-4ad3-8022-d6dc428fbd0d

    [–] jim3692@discuss.online 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    My parents wouldn't even notice that their computer decided to encrypt their files. And they will blame the service guy for not being able to recover their photos, in case of hardware failure.

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    [–] torch_and_blanket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

    you don't need to dual-boot Windows / Linux anyway

    Exactly, as I can just wipe the disc and install OpenBSD.

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    [–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Not to mention DRM. They want to own your computer and prevent any kind of modification so that movie producers give them money.

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    [–] yaroto98@lemmy.org 78 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Just checked my wife's laptop. Local account, secure boot off, windows 10. It had a message telling me to setup a microsoft account to 'finish encrypting the device'. I clicked turn off, and it's currently decrypting the hard drive. Blech.

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    I need to check my girl's laptop.

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    [–] josefo@leminal.space 2 points 19 hours ago

    Shit they do this on windows 10 too? I should check my girl laptop too.

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    [–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    I can't even adjust bitlocker settings on my laptop's windows 11 home Installation...

    [–] limerod@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yeah, you need Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, or Education edition.

    [–] RaccoonBall@lemm.ee 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

    Not anymore. Now home has it too

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    [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

    I've actually had this occur before to a machine I specifically disabled the tpm on so that it wouldn't happen (it was an account less frozen kiosk). I was fuming the entire time I spent rebuilding it.

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago (6 children)

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    [–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 219 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    They also do spyware. They just renamed it "AI."

    [–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 88 points 1 day ago (13 children)

    and also Recall

    [–] OctaviaMeowzly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

    Recall Rec all Record all, their not even being subtle about it anymore

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 18 hours ago

    My god it's all true 🀯

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    [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 156 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Holy shit, they automatically activate it on computers without an account to back the key up to?

    That's just malicious

    [–] Godort@lemm.ee 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    IIRC, they only do this if you're logged in with a Microsoft account.

    Bitlocker is disabled by default if you only use local accounts

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    [–] DimFisher@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I still don't understand why there is no other mainstream os in competition alongside MS except IOs, I wouldn't call Linux mainstream of course, don't you think that's a bit weird?!

    [–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 6 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

    MS abused its monopoly in the 90s. The Clinton administration was too lenient, then the Bush admin kowtowed completely. Now, there's largely no chance for another operating system to compete.

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    [–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Microsoft is almost good as dead. These days, Linux takes just as much maintenance as XP used to. They've got maybe 5 years left until laptops start shipping with alternatives to Windows. My bet is it's going to be SteamOS.

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

    Microsoft is thriving and will continue to do so, just probably on machines running Linux.
    They get paid $$ per month per employee by most businesses in the developed world.
    There is a mature alternative to desktop Windows now. But there isn't for AD, Azure, Exchange, Kerberos and M365.

    [–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago

    My bad, I meant their consumer grade stuff.

    I would generally agree with you on their cloud/server solutions. However, I do think AWS will get there some day.

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    [–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    If you don't just look at desktop computers, GNU/Linux and Android/Linux are the most used operating systems in the world (not sure which is in the lead).
    If you look only at desktop computers, the most used OS is Minix, which is installed on most Intel CPUs and motherbords.

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    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Meanwhile in Linux with luls, which I've had since a pre-pre-pre version somewhere back in the early 2000's, I can have multiple keys, all works like sunshine, never had problems.

    On windows... So we work with highly sensitive data, and ever since I came in I thought it insane that people working remote don't have that highly sensitive data encrypted. We can't switch Linux yet, so okay, we go for BitLocker.

    Boy oh boy oh boy was that a mistake.

    50 remote users, 5 get encrypted devices with BitLocker as a trial and within a month, 3 of them already got locked up permanently because apparently it'll pwrma lock itself after x amounts of invalid passwords which is just incredibly stupid. But don't worry, there is a backup key! Yeah, that is lie 48 characters that we'd had to pass by phone and they have to type it flawlessly.

    Suffice to say, the remote users will be running Linux soon, like it or not.

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