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Teens have access to vastly more potent cannabis than their parents had at their age. Parents need to understand the risks, including psychosis

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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The link between diabetics and insulin is real

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

Cannabis doesn't do it. I need a sledgehammer to my pinal gland please

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand why teens want to drink, smoke weed, and take drugs so badly, anyway. (Shitty friends peer pressuring them?) Just wait until your 20s like I did; it's not difficult.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Kids want to escape from their dysfunctional families or trauma or whatever other adversities they’re experiencing and they don’t have a support system to show them healthy coping.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

As someone who was raised by narcissists with anger issues, I can understand that argument. Still waited until my mid 20s, though, because I didn't want to screw up my developing brain.

That said, I'm still fucked in the head from childhood trauma. On second thought, maybe it would have been worth it to sacrifice some brain cells for a little escape from my family...

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

As a someone who studied biology: at an early age, you don't want more neuroplasticity. You already have enough. More may do you harm, and cannabis gives more, so cannabis may do you harm.

When you're 70 and your neural networks are set in stone, do consider what could safely increase neuroplasticity. But whatever you consume, don't consume it by inhaling smoke. :)

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 24 minutes ago

Calling bullshit on this one.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 139 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (12 children)

I worked inpatient psych for a long time, and can tell you first-hand the link between psychosis and cannabis is real. No, this does not mean "if you smoke weed you're going to get psychotic!" What it does mean is that if you're someone with a genetic predisposition for schizophrenia (e.g. you have a known family history) weed is a potential trigger for a psychotic episode. If someone has already developed schizophrenia, smoking weed can make their symptoms worse and more difficult to manage with medications.

80% of people coming through the psych hospital, whatever, I don't care if you smoke weed. Honestly, I wish people would smoke weed rather than use meth, K2, or a bunch of other drugs that fuck people up. But for that subset of people prone to psychotic episodes, the conversation centers around "some people can smoke weed and be fine, and you are not one of those people."

The most common ages for men to develop first episode psychosis are 18-25, and while it's dumb that this article focuses on teenagers, the risk in that age group is genuinely higher. This article really is dumb overall and does not explain any of this well

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Hey I work in inpatient psych too and want to back you up. It’s totally a known observation that patients have been coming in younger and younger. And it’s very common to see a history of drug use of some kind (yeah usually for kids it’s weed, if not polysubstance).

Sad to see because once they start coming back to the hospital a few times, it’s like they’re in the system so to speak. Too many kids don’t break out of that cycle. I always discharge kids like, “I hope to never see you again. Don’t come back here” lol.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 15 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The article, most of all, misses that it's about CBD to THC ratio, not raw overall cannabinoid content. CBD is an antipsychotic and on the cusp of getting the stamp of approval for treating schizophrenia. Strains on the street, in the meantime, have been bred for THC at the expense of CBD because it's THC which gives a head-high, makes consumers believe they got strong stuff.

The deeper question, overall, is why we live in a society which prompts people to take anxiolytics to cope.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I also work inpatient psych, doing admission evaluations. Anecdotally, it seems like my patients who report using synthetics and distillates get the worst psychotic symptoms while under the influence. I'm guessing the delta-8 edibles and vaporizers they're buying legally from local shops probably contain no CBD at all.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago

I linked below a systematic review where many of the studies do find this to be the case.

[–] Djehngo@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Just to add to your (excellent) comment; in the UK you can be prescribed medical marijuana but it has to be done by a consultant level doctor and a multi disciplinary trial. The most important disqualifying factor is any history of psychosis, if they see that on your medical records they will not write you a prescription.

So I would a assume there is some published medical literature they are following which states cannabis exacerbates the symptoms of psychosis.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I switched from drinking too much alcohol too often (wine, beer, etc) to occasionally dry vaping weed about 8 years ago. And from my mental and physical perspective it was a extreme shift to the better.

So I would even include alcohol in your list.

And I wouldn't let my kids use weed as long as long as I am capable to control that aspect.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Alcohol can make you feel like shit and can do great damage if used too often, but meth and K2 can fuck someone's brain up after even one use due to lack of quality control

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

i heard this too, some people have accounted thier friends went full schizo after getting baked, of couse they need to have underlying disease first.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have friends who are now diagnosed schizophrenics, whose first major symptoms occurred while they were smoking weed. I have more friends whose schizophrenia appeared during or immediately after use of psychedelics. I tend to favor the belief that they had an underlying condition that was triggered, but I'm also slightly suspicious of the reasoning, which is too much like "they were already cracked and that's why they broke at that time" which can be tautological.

Hopefully, someone will do a good study of people who show early or precursor symptoms of schizophrenia and look at their risk of getting full-blown symptoms versus the baseline population, with or without recreational drug use.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 18 hours ago

They cite one such study right there in the article, and there are others: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38775165/

This isn't new information either, the experience I related above was a decade ago, and the impact of weed on people prone to psychotic disorders was already well known to the medical community at that time.

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 121 points 1 day ago (31 children)

This article blows. “Genetically modifying” cannabis for higher THC content? You mean breeding, like every other plant grown for consumption?

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

he had had persistent delusions for more than six months. Sam was fully convinced that the government was following him and constantly surveilling him

That's not a delusion tho.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The government probably is surveilling them.

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/30/this-is-what-we-were-always-scared-of-doge-is-building-a-surveillance-state/

Also, anecdotes are not evidence unless you've got a brain worm.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You know, I'm not really interested in a long anecdote about Sam and his father. It doesn't add any real information.
I had hoped to read about the actual evidence.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago

Please stop smoking weed. The alcohol industry is suffering. Won't someone think of the alcoholics!!

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