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Teens have access to vastly more potent cannabis than their parents had at their age. Parents need to understand the risks, including psychosis

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[–] 30p87@feddit.org 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

he had had persistent delusions for more than six months. Sam was fully convinced that the government was following him and constantly surveilling him

That's not a delusion tho.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The government probably is surveilling them.

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/30/this-is-what-we-were-always-scared-of-doge-is-building-a-surveillance-state/

Also, anecdotes are not evidence unless you've got a brain worm.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

not anymore it isnt

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You know, I'm not really interested in a long anecdote about Sam and his father. It doesn't add any real information.
I had hoped to read about the actual evidence.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 4 points 22 hours ago

Please stop smoking weed. The alcohol industry is suffering. Won't someone think of the alcoholics!!

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The war on drugs has made research into cannabis difficult and compared to alcohol and tobacco, we are practically blind. Legalization has changed this and we should pay attention.

The only thing to match the propaganda of the drug war is the CBD cure-all craze. I think that it's wise to do some basic research so that one day we can have an informed opinion rather than a knee jerk reaction.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For me it’s real simple: I talk to my kids about drug use and its negative impact on their growing minds and bodies. Like any growing organism, they need good food, fresh air, plenty of water, and exercise. Smoking, drinking, and drugs do not provide any of that, and all I ask of them is to wait until they are older.

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[–] voltaric@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wow they fail basic science. Correlation does not equal causation. More gateway drug scare in its modern form.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Correlation does not equal causation.

And cutting and pasting isn't a reasoned argument, either.

Without correlation, there is no causation. So correlation can be taken to be an an indication that causation is not ruled out.

[–] x_cell@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago (38 children)

No, they don't "fail basic science". They point out that there is a correlation and we need better studies, but the mere existence of the correlation is worrying, especially considering a lot of recent studies are confirming the link between cannabis and teen psychosis. A lot of the early studies on the harm of cigarettes started similarly. Correlation between lung cancer and smoking tobacco doesn't imply causation, but it's one hell of an alarm bell.

The author of the article themselves doesn't say cannabis is a gateway drug and even recognizes that asking people to just not use it isn't realistic.

[–] voltaric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They fail to explore systemic correlations and hyperfocus on cannabis. I am claiming they are repeating reactionary history instead of systemic analysis. Focusing on what is wrong with the individual rather than the system that bore them.

The article is an opinion as stated at the bottom.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My concern is another Reefer Madness type of propaganda campaign. We need legit, replicable and replicated studies. I don't indulge anymore, for several reasons. Most were practical but also unrelated to health/employment.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

My concern is another Reefer Madness type of propaganda campaign.

That's a political, not a scientific concern, and with the present maladministration, a possibly legitimate one.

We need legit, replicable and replicated studies.

I completely agree. More fact-based decision making is sorely need on this and many other questions.

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[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm wondering about dosage here, really. As a kid, I smoked weed like maybe once a week but I knew kids who were constantly high all day, every day. We called them "permafried" and some even self-identified that way as a matter of pride.

Hopefully, with further study and research, we can get more information about the actual risk to teens with a variety of usage patterns. Then it's a matter of education so that they're aware of the risk before they're presented with the choice to smoke.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The problem is, a bunch of people with very limited drug experience sharing their anecdotal stories isn't evidence. It's just a story.

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[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This shouldn’t be controversial. It’s been known for about a decade now if not longer.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Everybody should use a flower vaporizer like G Pen. Clean hits, low dose, and none of the crap that’s in concentrates.

Compared to what I even had when I was a kid as a millennial, these vape pens are wild. Dabbing all the time. It’s like casually taking shots of alcohol. There is such thing as marijuana abuse and even addiction.

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