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The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-excommunicate-priests-following-new-us-state-law-2069039

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So it was unclear to me from the article if it simply made priests mandatory reporters or if it went further. My understanding is that mandatory reporters don't have to report past occurrences specifically. They only havecto report if it is currently happening or they suspect going to happen. If that is the case, it should be fine. Confession isn't about what you are going to do.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 304 points 2 days ago (45 children)

I read the headline and was prepared to support the church on this one (for once). Then I read the first paragraph of the article. I have never made a 180 on an opinion so fast. The fuck is wrong with the Catholic church and child abuse? Why is this a constant problem with them?

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 142 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Imagine if any other type of organization had this sort of systemic problem with child abuse.

“Wow, there sure are a lot of pedophile employees at Apple Computer abusing their customers’ children.”

“Dang, the US Department of Transportation sure does have a kiddie diddler problem.”

“Holy shit, what’s the deal with all the abusive perverts working at Ronald McDonald House?”

Sounds absolutely bonkers, right‽

If any secular organization was having this kind of problem at scale, we’d all be calling for their blood. Yet the church gets a pass somehow. A few complaints, a few lawsuits, some big scandals, some negative press, but fundamentally nothing ever changes.

To hell with the church.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 131 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Why aren't all the preists who diddle kids excommunicated?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

No one would go to church if they thought their kids wouldn’t get experience

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Catholic Church = Child Molester Haven.

Pretty simple.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

Oh, it's most churches. And the GOP.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago

Because that's the whole point of the church. It's just one big sham so they can diddle kids

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 148 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Therapists are required to break confidentiality if they suspect child abuse. The church thinks it is above secular law and only answers to God, not to mention the protection it offers to its own child abusers. It's complete nonsense and a good example of why religious tolerance has limits.

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[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bro it's breaking Catholic canon. They can change that shit that's what the Pope is for.

Maybe God would be chill with revealing child abuse even if it comes from confession. Just carve a little exception out there. Crazy that the clergy would rather protect pedophiles than reinterpreting some doctrine.

[–] Bilaketari@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

First off, adapting religion to secular laws is not how that works. There's the separation of church an state and the state should have no say in any religion. The country was based on religious freedom and escaping what the English kings were trying to do to Christianity in their realms (controlling religion).

But second you shouldn't take that way since you don't seem to grasp the role reconciliation has for Catholics and Orthodox (and others). It's a sacrament (or sacred mystery for Orthodox). That's dogma and the practice/form is in large part a matter of unchangeable doctrine. That kind of doctrine never gets changed, ever, and never has. It's an essential part of Catholics' beliefs. Parts of format are just regular teaching which can get changed, but that's not a matter of interpretation, it's a matter of practice (in this case canon law) guided by the foundatinal dogma and unchanging doctrine. The seal of confessing is so fundamental, so sacred that there have been numerous martyrs whose status comes from having been willing to die rather than break it. It's would be less grave to lie about believing in Christ to save your life than to break the seal (and most martyrs died for refusing to reject their faith when Christianity was prohibited).

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Wait a sec. What the fuck? So reporting child rape is now BAD???

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Note for the internet: I am just clarifying the Catholic stance. I am not Catholic and not defending them.

Priests cannot reveal what someone tells them in confession. It's a lot like attorney-client privilege, as your priest is supposed to be your advocate before God. Breaking the seal of confession is a big deal (to them) because, just like criminals deserve representation, sinners need to be able to confess.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They hold confession to be inviolate, which is fucking bullshit. Doctors, including psychiatrists, who aren't allowed to share that shit do have to report certain criminal acts to police.

Unfortunately all too often freedom of religion translates to freedom from consequences. Fuck the Catholic church (and all churches) in general, but in particular for shit like this. Three Catholic church isn't unique in this, it's just got the most rigidly hierarchical, top-down structure of them all.

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[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

It’s just catholic canon for „snitches get stitches“.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Looks like I'm going to continue not being catholic.

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