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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/63714263

German software giant SAP will cut several of its diversity programmes to abide by new requirements of the US administration, a spokesman told AFP on Sunday, confirming reports in the local press.

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[โ€“] Goten@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago

Why do we have DEI in Europa? We are all white?!

[โ€“] drmoose@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They try to frame it as "legal requirement" while US doesn't have any legal right or even an ability to verify this.

All of this is just pandering and corruption.

[โ€“] swordfish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe that the article is talking about the US-based SAP company. Not the German based one. I think the German SAP will still honor german law.

[โ€“] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes but even within US the company is not required to obey this executive order in any capacity. From what I understand it's completely meaningless and can be safely ignored by anyone but the federal government.

[โ€“] swordfish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ah ok. Thanks.

[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 weeks ago
[โ€“] SW42@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

I guess I will be cuttting my SAP stock out of my portfolio by requirement of my conscience. Itโ€™s so little that they wonโ€™t care, but it would leave a sour taste in my mouth. Truly disappointing.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 41 points 2 weeks ago

Corpos gonna corpo. I get the shift to EU based by EU plebs but at the end of the this is a class war. And a German parasite is still a patasite. Gonna need Ivermectin either way sooner or later.

FOSS is the only viable path forward for the team peasant

[โ€“] PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

SAP is a strong contender for the second worst thing Germany has ever done.

[โ€“] pdxfed@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Millions affected

Enduring unimaginable suffering

Many Germans voluntarily supported it

...SAP is pretty messed up. Still better than PeopleSoft

[โ€“] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

PeopleSoft that was raped to give birth to Phoenix...

I don't understand how companies can screw up an HR and pay system so badly.

[โ€“] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They built payroll systems. Then they decided to add on frankenmodules done by people who have never worked in HR. Also, to be fair, the world got wicked complicated in HR the last 2 decades, but yes it should be better. Many of the newer startups are designed for people but have less payroll configurability--they work for most small-midsized companies that don't have high complexity and save eons in training and user pain.

[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking Sanduhr Anzeige Programm.

Hop over the border to Belgium and get Odoo. At least it's open core and easy to customize, cheaper to run.

[โ€“] don@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago

Lame af, get your shit together.

[โ€“] BCsven@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good thing everyone I know has been switching to Odoo from SAP. Hopefully Odoo doesn't bow to Orange Oberkapo

[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Odoo isn't as prevalent in the US yet I believe. They have more to lose by pissing off EU.

[โ€“] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder how that's gonna work since like 90% of SAP consultants are Indian. Lol. (Am Indian and have worked with SAP before)

[โ€“] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

If that's true, technically that's still a lack of diversity.

[โ€“] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If those programs were required by law then they will get sued by the state no?

[โ€“] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These aren't normal times here in the US, so it's hard to say.

The federal government sent an executive order that all companies doing business with the government need to remove their diversity, equity, and accessibility programs in other to keep or win contracts. There is no legal requirement because this administration has been fundamentally avoiding legislation and ruling by presidential dictate instead. It's probably not legally binding, but so far nobody has been able to force the government to obey the law.

[โ€“] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Of course its not legally binding. The decisions of the US gov are completely irrelevant when it comes to german law.

[โ€“] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Obviously, but countries require companies doing business with their government or within their borders to follow their laws. In this particular case I don't think it's binding even within the US because of how it was demanded.