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[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Sanction lovers in ruins

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, that's almost SOTA transistor size! I wonder what the performance will be?

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's parity with TSMC so without counting the chip packaging R&D --that China had done way more of than the west-- it should be in the same range of performance as the best cutting-edge the west has.

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TSMC is currently manufacturing 2nm I believe. But in terms of currently available chips, it's parity. Chinese chips have had great performance compared to similar specced western chips, so I have high hopes

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

3nm.

They achieved parity with the west already. They made a decade worth of technological jump in less than a year.

This isn't even the end of the road, expect this to just be them waving at us as they pass our stop without even slowing down and speed ahead to way more advanced technology than anything the west has.

[–] departee@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I don't think thats true.

In house chip design is not the same as coming from chinese foundries. As far as I can tell these are still coming from TSMC. SMIC seems to be coming out with 5nm chips this year

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago

I wrote about this here, China catching up to the west is itself an indication that it is advancing at a faster pace.

https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/chinas-tech-surge-reshaping-the-global

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Xiaomi isn't the foundry. No way they leapfrogged SMIC. This is either TSMC or SMIC

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

China stays winning

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are the drivers open or is it a dystopian GPL breaking nightmare like MediaTek trash? Is the bootloader unlocked or possible to unlock?

If answer to any of those is negative, FUCK XIAOMI AND THEIR CPU.

Y'all should stop buying slop hardware just because it was made in China.

I actually have a Xiaomi phone but I run LineageOS on it. If that option didn't exist, I wouldn't hsve bought Xiaomi. Simple as

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

I wish someone would tell Genocide Joe about this while he is in his dying bed.

[–] blame@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

looking forward to the asianometry video on this

edit: According to https://technode.com/2025/05/19/xiaomi-unveils-self-developed-xuanjie-o1-chip-using-3nm-process/ this is built on TSMC's 3nm prcess

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago

It's always easier to do stuff the second time around when you already know what the rough approach is even if you don't know the details.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The capitalist west hoisted with their own sanctions petard.