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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Oh boy the only issue I have is that I'm going to be unstoppable, Ciri is literally a broken main character nearing her full potential.

Bitch can fucking dimension travel, trained in sword and fight by other witchers and IIRC Yennefer trained her in some sort of sorcery arts as well so it'd be like having an OP mix of Geralt+Yennefer

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yennefer trained her in some sort of sorcery arts

So I recently devoured the book series and can clarify, she was first trained as a Witcher, then as a sourceress by Yennefer, but after she was teleported into the middle of the desert and tried to use fire as a source of power out of desperation, she gave up all magical abilities as the fire was trying to consumer her. So shes a brilliant swordswoman, has partial Witcher mutation (some of the mutations come from the secret Witcher diet which she was fed at Ker Moren while being trained) and depending on when in the timeline the game takes place she would have incredible reflexes and some interdimensional travel capabilities.

There's also some really interesting opportunities for storytelling given how Ciri's background is just soaked in trauma. On that note, I am also curious if they intend to play down the salaciousness for this entry or not. In the books Ciri was definitely curious (and heavily implied to be bi) but remained a virgin, and by the end of the series she was still a minor by modern standards. I want to say she was 16 or so at the end of the last book.

I'm super excited to see where this game goes, because if its worthy of being released after the masterpiece that was The Witcher 3, it's going to be brilliant

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

With regards to Ciri's age, she's 21 during the main events in The Witcher 3.

At the end of the books she's 17.

No idea if they'll play down the salaciousness or not, but given when the game will likely take place that at least won't be any issues with the main character being a minor.

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[–] LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 3 days ago (23 children)

ROFL I guess these dudes want to live a power fantasy through Geralt instead of accepting the natural next step; since they are following the Witcher Books for the most part, Ciri was bound to be the lead character. I feel the Witcher 4 will be an excellent game, there's interesting ground to cover with Ciri. The only bad thing will be if there is no first person mode, as I tend to avoid games with women as leads...I like to look at men from behind, not ladies. I hope the art team chose a design that doesn't try to make her into a thirst trap (as that low-key makes me not want to play games with female leads).

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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)

hot take: i fucking hated the way ciri and every single other woman in witcher3 was written/portrayed...

they all felt like they were written by incels who have never met or conversed with an actual real woman. they were shallow game of thrones/fantasy tropes and felt like walking talking cliches. i literally cringed through every interaction...

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[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

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[–] Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's about time women got more accurate representation in games. How many games have you play as a man compared to playing as a woman? Technically it should be 50/50 to more accurately represent the real world.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't think representation is the main issue, it is more about how they are presented.

Striding for a perfect 50/50, doesn't really sense if they are all just stereotypes and sexual objectified. Also there are many other underrepresented population groups.

IMO, it is more important to focus good well written and complex characters, that represent real circumstances right.

I don't complain that AAA studios have gone 'woke' because they now include choices to select from marginalized groups, I complain about them because they are often do not offer a deeper perspective of people in that group and are just different skins.

In some way, I can understand, games often happen in a Fantasy world, but I would wish that selecting different characters would do more than just exchanging the player mesh, texture and voice pack.

[–] Comrade_Spood@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Unless you are also complaining about it when white male characters are also surface-level, 2-D, copy-and-paste characters then all you are saying is "Only white male characters are allowed to be simple or a stereotype/trope." Lets be honest, not every game needs a complex and well written character, and that is fine. If they choose to go that route it doesn't matter what race, religion, or gender the character is in the first place. So it doesn't matter if they are a white male, a latina woman, or a black non-binary person.

Now I'm also not gonna shut down your solution without being constructive and providing my own solution, cause I don't think quotas are the answer either. Instead we should be uplifting and empowering marginalized creators and game designers so that they can make more characters that they want to make. Which is generally characters they can relate to. If people want more characters that are women, then the game industry needs to become a safe space for women and empower them so they can provide more representation for characters. Same thing for any other demographic. That will make sure that these characters are being made in an aethentic and organic way, and not just being pumped out to meet a quota, but also isn't restricting when marginalized demographics can be used as characters.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.

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[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Honestly I think W3 jumped the shark when it added a fifth faction for Gwent, and I know I'm not alone in this opinion.

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I don't believe there are people who seriously throw the "woke" argument out there. I think it's a sort of rage baiting by the journalists. Ffs there were 3 games with Geralt as lead. Enough is enough.

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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you need consume X media to be able to enjoy Y media, we have a problem there, pal :/

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[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Not gonna lie, I was hoping they'd use some Law of Surprise stuff to give Geralt a new ward and let you create your own Witcher. But, if instead I get to do teleport strike bullshit with Ciri's powers, I'll be content.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hey, anybody remember when MGS 2 came out, and the mass of NA gamers were raging about having to play as Raiden, because he was a ... well in modern parlance, a beta cuck soyboy?

Kinda flew over all their heads that Raiden was basically a more realistic reflection of the NA target demo for MGS games, and oh he also goes through legitimate character development, gains maturity and confidence, oh well now, more lately, he's basically a badass fucking cyberninja.

... Passing the torch off to Ciri fucking entirely makes sense within the world and lore of the Witcher series... and I thought we liked having an attractive gal booty to ogle at in third person?

Or is that now gay?

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