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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Do anyone have that new article that was like, accusing them of genociding a desert because they turned it into a forest or some shit? I remember it form a year or so back. The reforested an area of desert and this journalist was losing him mind over it.

Edit:

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/414155

Ok apparently I posted about it and my memory is just that bad. Lmao. Thanks to comrade GrainEater for reminding me.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

The biggest criticism I've seen is that the planting project ended up being a huge monoculture of poplar trees, but that was kinda the norm back then in reforestation.

The last I heard the forest they planted was dying from a beetle infestation, and they were going to attempt a redo with a lot more species of trees.

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But fostering biodiversity remains a challenge, conservationists say

Checkmate China, what's the point if you can't just magically spawn the Amazon forest

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That is a valid concern. One of the largest problems with the project was that they planted massive monocultures of single trees. Something that is extremely dangerous as a single parasite, disease, or pest could annihilate hundreds of thousands of square kilometers.

Plus monocultures limit biodiversity to an extreme capacity as the entire forest is suitable only to a very limited number of species. It’s not that the animals aren’t there to begin with, it’s that not many can survive in the mass monoculture forest.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you posted this about a year ago, that might be it

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago

My memory really is just that bad. Lmao.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 10 months ago

South America and Africa having lost about 13% forest coverage over 30 years is extremely sad

[–] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Can someone explains this map to me? The text says China leads, but the numbers say Vietnam is at 56.2%, greater than China's 40%.

[–] comfortablydumb@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's pretty obvious.. China is huge, Vietnam is tiny compared to it. The reforested area is, therefore, much larger in China.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also vietnam is still recovering from the war I imagine

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to take care of the forest when there is still tons of inexploded murican ordnance in it.

[–] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That and the forests got fucked up by free and democratic chemical warfare. Badly.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

"Free and democratic chemical warfare"

That's good. I'm stealing that.

[–] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the forests are well recovered from the war. it was 50 years ago, and the monsoons really make growth relatively easy.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I stand corrected then.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

The map is the forest area in 2020, relative to existing forest area in 1990 (no change would be 0%).

So, if you count by absolute area, China leads, and if you count by relative area, Uruguay leads.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago

It's forest added, not amount of forest

[–] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

leads the increase

[–] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know Vietnam is a tropical country.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 10 months ago

much easier growth of tree coverage...

[–] ybl@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Why is “private forest ownership” a thing?

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hey, the US actually expanded its forests. Go us!

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

One of the few good pieces of legislation put forth have curtailed the reach and power of the logging industry and development industries significantly. This is why capitalists in the US hate the EPA.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Going by the logic of US media, it's probably abandoned towns and cities being overgrown.

Wait, it might actually be true.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah honestly that’s really surprising