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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Selling iPhones made outside US: bad

Selling MAGA hats and swag made in China: art of the deal

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He still doesn't understand how tariffs work...

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Isn't he just saying that he will tariff them so they're paying 25% more for manufacturing in a foreign country?

This is far left policy.

[–] UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Step 1. Add Tarrifs.

Step 2. Wait till the share price falls.

Step 3. Buy in low.

Step 4. Lift the tariffs again.

Step 5. Wait till the share price rises.

Step 6. Profit.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

If you think you can't ever put stocks on a hot sale think again.

[–] lsibilla@lemm.ee 13 points 12 hours ago

What about the components? Should they also be produced in the US?

Let’s be clear, producing the iPhone in the US would be more than a 25% cost increase.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 61 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Once again. Companies do NOT pay tariffs. They pass on those costs of those tariffs to their customers. YOU are gonna pay that extra 25% not Apple.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

It’s extremely misleading to say “companies do not pay tariffs” and then immediately explain that companies do indeed pay tariffs.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

that’s fine. iphones are so cheap, people can handle even 50% tariffs. apple is worth every penny /s.

going to buy a cmf phone 2 now…

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah. I'm typing this on a $300 Chinese phone with 10600mAH battery, reverse wireless charging, a thermal imaging camera, and it's waterproof and shock resistant.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Unless the companies eat the tariffs. But greedy companies will pass them on

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

how long is it going to take, before you realize its too late? if they didn't realize by now, they aren't going to

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump will never ever admit he's wrong, but I'm curious how the voters will react when everything costs 50% more all of a sudden.

They'll probably blame Biden somehow, but I'm curious still

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

He's already called all the stock market turmoil "Biden's market", hilariously.

[–] DaneGerous@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is it only tariff costs that are passed on to employees and customers or are all corporate tax costs passed on to employees and customers?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

At the end of the day it's all of it. Some of it is built into their existing model, some of it is constant etc but they include it all in the calculations to come up with the prices. New costs like these tariffs get added to the overall margin calculation and a new price is set.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Still there is another side of it that also interesting. These companies has done their calculations so the cost of the product is perfect. Increasing that price means less people will buy the product.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

Increasing that price means less people will buy the product.

Unless your competitors are also facing the same forced price increase.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 30 points 16 hours ago

The Art of Extortion.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago
[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 40 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

This isn't about making Apple make iPhones in the US. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans that the fascists will blame on Apple for not making iPhones in the US and use to give tax breaks to the rich. Trump and his cabal are reverse Robin Hooding the American people and 70 million of them are lining up to lick his boots for it.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

The US is turning into my games of stellaris a little bit more everyday. Oh boy you sure dont want to be in my games of stellaris guys.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

You know that is somewhat true. What everyone could see when I was kid has come to pass. The people like trump and the actual billionaires in this country sold us out then. They sold us out by moving all the manufacturing offshore. Now these same greedy trash humans want all that back since they have realized that the ability to manufactures products was the United States real power. They delivered millions of my parents generation into poverty and wage slavery to make a buck by moving the job overseas. Now these horrible people and their followers are doing the same thing to try to get it back. They don't understand nor do they care about the real people in this country. Only about themselves.

Their followers who are not profiting from this must be really, really stupid.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The reason why manufacturing was moved offshore was because it cost more money to produce the goods in the states and they had to adhere to us regulation. Products are cheap because they’re build offshore. No one actually wants the factory jobs back in the states because they’ll be too expensive to produce, and a lot of the jobs will be done by bots anyway. If the iPhone was the be built in the states it would cost $3.5k. Billionaires want a peasant class. They’re envious of China - lots of low educated people earning nothing working long hours. Billionaires have low self esteem.

[–] ohmy_science@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Well those regulations are virtually non existent. Can pay lip service but who is going to enforce it

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes of course it was because of money. They couldn't see it then and they cant see it now.

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[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Did trump just confuse a possessive s for a plural s?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

That is the least of his linguistic faults.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

style errors are easily forgiven. study a foreign language or a programming language to get some empathy

suspending habeas corpus? he should be in so many heaps of trouble. the guillotine was a nasty, evil piece of work, and anyways

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 13 hours ago

Autocorrect more likely

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

It happens to people and I don't know why

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

Tim Apple make your phones in America the king has spoken.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This past Monday, John Stewart of The Daily Show interviewed Patrick Mcgee who discussed the jaw-dropping amounts of money Apple spent building out Chinese electronics supply chains which had deep implications. -It made for an interesting case if true.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago

On that note, I suspect that a 25% tax is cheaper by far than the cost of building out state of the art silicon fab on US soil, plus the additional cost of paying Americans to do the manufacturing/assembly. Would you rather buy an iPhone for $1250 or $4000?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

He still has absolutely no clue how tariffs work. Amazing for someone who throws them left and right without thinking. Although the latter might explain it.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

What does he not understand correctly here?

[–] Salamand 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The worst take from his opposition: "trumps such a dumb idiot". And it's why the left gets out-maneuvered; they imagine those on the right as only either 1. Imbeciles 2. Racists.

The right sees the left as cunning, and strategizes how to outplay them.

The left sees the right as backwards morons, and strategizes how to insult them. It seems to be the main play, and is doing him a favor by shutting down closer examination.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is a demented moron who has no fucking idea what's going on.

His faceless staff, led by Stephen Miller, are very smart and know exactly what they're doing.

[–] Salamand 1 points 10 hours ago

if that's the case, if he's just an idiot puppet, why spend energy attacking him and his character specifically? It doesn't persuade anyone on the right, and it doesn't help the left focus on the people pulling the strings.

The news, and left leaning communities online, have told me every day for 8+ years that trump is stupid, etc. What's the point?

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[–] vala@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn't know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.

RIP

[–] Primax@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's coming true.

And again "tariff must be paid by Apple" really shows that he still has no idea how they work.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf the labor will be done by the minorities and undesirables they will keep throwing in prison without due process

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 16 hours ago

along with the poor white folk who voted for him.

That sounds like a nice mix where nothing terrible could happen. Tons of black and brown people surrounded by the poor white rural idiots that disenfranchised both of their lives.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Made in India + 25% tariff is still cheaper than made in Murica.

That BS is just for media.

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[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

This perfectly sums up the shortfalls of Trumpian populism in the face of Late Stage Capitalism.

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