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  • Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Then it should die.

This is like saying "if we had to ask for consent, the human race would die." Fucking creepy, rapist vibes.

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[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 days ago

Cool, so I'll get started on building an automated business that sells cheap access to all the music, movies and shows on the streaming services.

Getting consent for each title would basically kill my business and would be implausible, so I'll just assume it's ok.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If a business cannot survive without breaking the law, then it is not a business but a criminal organisation.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

I have a proposition. Raid them with police and search their computers for stolen data like you would do with your citizens.

[–] Zanshi@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago
[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

oh noes

Look, these goddamn assholes have got in their head that they have a right to profit.

NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO PROFIT.

You have a right to try to create a profit and there are rules to that. You're gonna lose your billions in investment if you can't plaigerize content?....fuck you, your loss, and you shoulda fucking known better when the idea was presented to you.

Assholes

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If being declined concent is going to kill your industry then maybe your industry deserved to die.

Fucking rapist mentaility right there.

[–] Tobberone@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

My thought exactly. If consent isn't needed, what other actions do they deem justified without consent?

This is not a IP-issue, this is about human rights.

[–] Flukas88@feddit.it 26 points 6 days ago

I'm ok with "ai" dying

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago

Great, let's do that.

[–] Susurrus@lemm.ee 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same thing for most of billionaires' income sources.

"Respecting [insert human right] would kill [insert industry]."

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If asking for permission is going to kill an industry, then that industry should be killed.

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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

So I can steal all their shit too, right? It would "Implausible" for me to do so.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

correction: will kill people's attempts to make billions out of other people's art. Otherwise inquisitive people will continue to do non-profit research this way or another.

Actually here is a question to you: Would you be ok if the law stated you don't need permission if it is non-profit and open source? Yea I thought so bitch.

[–] MiyamotoKnows@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Kill the AI industry? Sweet. As an artist I do not consent.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 15 points 6 days ago
[–] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Oh, so it'd be ok to get movies, pictures, books, etc. without asking the right owners for us too? GREAT.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And not asking for it will kill whatever remains of the creative industries.

What do you want, a few years of ai slop followed by the more or less rapid decline of the internet (as it is overwhelmed with model collapse creative works and untrustable content) that will afford the likes of Clegg (in his role of 'meta' executive) a huge payout, or creative people having any hope of a sustained ability to make a living?

I know what I would prefer and I also know what is most likely going to happen. This is the result of decades of neo-liberal fossil-fuel-powered capitalism.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

So… what’s the down side to this bill?

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Let's hope it does.

Is this going in for a vote? Where do I vote?

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Honestly not a bad thing, I mean you're not going to OpenSource your AI so this is a good alternative

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No, says the man on Wall Street; it belongs to the shareholders.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 6 days ago

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of ALL the brows?

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

If an industry can't survive without resorting to copyright theft then maybe it's not a viable business.

Imagine the business that could exist if only they didn't have to pay copyright holders. What makes the AI industry any different or more special?

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

He admit it!

Yay, kill it please.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Ah, if it isn’t my old friend Mr. Nick Clegg, with a dick for a face and an ass for a head!

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Fine then, kill it.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago
[–] Siresly@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Well let's hope it will.

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