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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Well buying used book does not give jkr one penny, watching dvd does not give and algorithm engagement, amd any old offline game will not either.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

i don't consume any of it but mostly because they're bad and she's a bad writer, but being a transphobe certainly didn't help her case either

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've had the first four books in the study at my mom's house since I was a kid. My nephew and nieces will read them. We have the box set of DVDs from forever ago. Same deal. I wouldn't consider myself a die-hard fan. I still don't understand why die-hard fans could still be spending so much money on the franchise. Did they add to the books?

[–] DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 18 points 15 hours ago

The short answer is it's not books. It's mostly licencing deals in the form of video games and merchandise... However HBO is about to put forward a new series that JKR will have executive control and an executive sized pay check for.

It's the "well it already exists and licencing deals are already paid, might as well watch it/play it/own it" that keeps the whole engine rolling on. Every time there's a little bit of advocacy to disengage from the fandom it is always spun as "too late" or focuses on the books or death of the author... But all that's really required is ambivalence.

Inevitably the new HP thing will come out and whether or not trans people mention anything people will drag up the controversy, use the reminder to brigade the spaces trans people connect online, try and goad their trans coworker for a commentary and set off yet another flurry of right wing backlash that makes elevating the franchise a patriotic duty to "stick it to the moralizing trans people to show them who is boss". All of this causes more cultural pressure on a population already underwater with being chased out of the public sphere but it will be framed as a just retaliation for a perceived slight.

It's a song and dance that will continue ad infinitum as long as it's profitable because appearantly nostalgia is worth turning a blind eye to the where the money goes.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you wanna play the game, pirate it and then play it offline.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't interested in playing it, but now I'm gonna do this out of spite.

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I would love to understand why saying "Don't support cunts" is such a non-controversial statement.

Until it comes to Harry Potter.

Especially considering how simple it is to do.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

it is interesting how JK Rowling hasn't had the same boycott pressure than Elon Musk and Tesla, I think trans rights are just not as motivating to most people, unfortunately

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

because it's Don't support assholes,

but what if it affects me personally?

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 20 hours ago

They're basically swifties ffs.

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[–] Vari@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ll never. Ever. Understand being rich enough to enjoy the rest of your life and choosing to spend that wealth harming innocent people.

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[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (32 children)

I think these hard line stances do more harm than good.

My wife and I are active in not supporting any new things, but to talk about how you think it's morally wrong to even talk about the franchise is going to alienate a ton of people.

I feel fine talking about it, and the memories I had with it. Because everyone I surround myself with is completely aligned that Harry Potter was meaningful when we were kids and also JK Rowling is a complete fucking asshat.

This sort of purity testing has got to stop. If mentioning the name of Harry Potter marks someone as a transphobe who is equally as bad as politicians actively stripping them of their rights... The movement will never build a coalition.

Saying that financially supporting JK Rowling is actively harming the trans community is a reasonable argument. Saying that talking about Harry Potter, even if you note that JK Rowling sucks, makes you an outright transphobe is not reasonable to me.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

If you see an oppressed people protesting against their opression, and your first instinct is to lecture them on the optics of their protest, you're not really an ally. You're just using "optics" as an excuse to not do anything to help out but still think of yourself as a good person. I don't think anyone falls for it.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Sorry for the shift in tone here but this is absurd...

I will continue to show up when it matters and do things like actively promote a great documentary on the day trans people's rights were stripped away from Iowans because of our dumbass legislature, because I cried watching friends of mine in that room being actively hurt by a government that should protect them. And continue to do the hard work to change the minds of bigoted people in my community, but yes let's pretend I'm just virtue signaling on an anonymous forum for "optics". I am actually doing real work and I won't apologize for not having patience for people saying I don't do enough because I say mentioning maybe Harry Potter in the proper context is probably fine. It's not the thing we need people paying attention to right now.

There's so much more hurt out there. If we boycotted Harry Potter entirely and wiped it from existence in an instant, the average trans persons life doesn't get suddenly get better.

It's fucking irritating. We're wasting breath talking about one stupid fucking lady and an imaginary wizard pretending it's a leading issue for the trans movement. You can hate me for saying it, but I'm fighting for bigger change than trying to make JK Rowling irrelevant. I would rather raise awareness about the systemic harm that I'm actively witnessing in laws being passed removing trans people's protected status. That's a FAR bigger issue.

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[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion coming, but fuck it. Harry Potter was never great, besides being set in the modern day it's very generic and the movies were mid. some people will worship whatever JK Rowling breathes on

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

what are some fun trans-inclusive universes? doesn't have to be fantasy

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Discworld explores gender a few times in a way that I like.

Monstrous Regiment is about a bunch of women who pretend to be men to join their military. For the most part - these aren’t trans characters, they identify as female. The funny is the characters slowly discovering that everyone else in their group is doing the same thing. One character though, explicitly identifies as male after the “reveal” and has male pronouns used for them.

Discworld as a series tends to be irreverent without punching down. Comedy is a weapon in Pratchett’s hands, but his targets are capitalism and oppressive systems.

LeGuin has a lot of interesting takes on gender. The Hainnish cycle is about a race of humans who had previously colonized a bunch of planets and did lots of experimentation on those populations - kinda Vault Tec vibes. The civilization collapses/gets better, and the POV character is usually some type of researcher/anthropologist looking at how those planets develop The Left Hand of Darkness is a sci fi classic: a planet where people stay sexless until they go into “heat” and will develop the opposite genitals of the person who they are attracted to. There’s lots of switching back and forth. It’s a big deal when the king gets pregnant, because only children the king carries can inherit the throne.

Any LeGuin is good. Earthsea is a far superior children’s series compared to Harry Potter. Nothing that really makes it explicitly trans but the process of finding your true name and accepting yourself is something that resonated very much with me. (Also props to LeGuin for being very forceful with insisting that the characters not be depicted as white. None of this pussyfooting retroactive “I never said Hermione was white!”)

Anne Leckie’s Imperial Radch trilogy is also more gender bending sci fi. Everyone is “she.” The first book was part of the Sad Puppies drama, because it won Hugo’s and absolutely pissed a bunch of a bunch of chuds.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Pratchett did indeed inspect gender quite a bit in the Discworld books.

It's never quite explicitly explained where Nobby Nobbs' peg fits, but it turns out he certainly prefers to wear women's clothing and is reluctant enough to change back into his male uniform at the end of Jingo that he has to be explicitly ordered to do so.

There's also Equal Rites, the very second story (and third book), which explores the notion of, "Just why can't a woman be a wizard, anyway?" (It turns out she can. And quite a powerful one, too.)

Gender is a pretty big deal to the dwarfs on the Disc, too. It's a recurring theme ever since Cheery Littlebottom is introduced in Feet of Clay.

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