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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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Movement Law Lab

NAACP

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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

not much stolen valor in this, I suppose.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

This is FAKE NEWS but also if it was REAL it's because the SHOP OWNERS are Criminals and NOT the Person who Stole Money while Impersonating an Officer!

Anyways it's a GOOD THING Unidentified Ice Agents are KIDNAPPING CHILDREN!

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

All I see is peaceful looting, surely they are insured.

This is not my actual take, but too many people on this site cheer when it's masked "protesters" robbing businesses but wag their finger at this? I mean, you never see a post titled "THE RIOTER PROBLEM".

Choose a moral standing that isn't tied to political football.

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[–] andybytes@programming.dev -5 points 3 days ago

I don't believe in God, but for shits and giggles, maybe this thing exists. I give it a little prayer every day and I say to myself, or to the magical creature, please God, Nuke America. I think we're too goddamn stupid to have an armed revolution. We're just going to keep standing in the ways of cars, getting run over at protests by dumbass neo-Nazis. While the Democrats just sit there with their thumb up their ass. Like Nancy Pelosi just counting money instead of doing her fucking job. Big tited, bored housewife got tired of drinking wine became a politician. Now she's got the sellout genocide supporting AOC as her little pet. But yet, you know, none of this matters because America is an imperialist empire. And fascists are the useful idiots of empire. And when capitalism is in crisis, especially inside of the imperial core, well, you're going to see some terrible things happen. One day, they're going to use drones, killer drones, on American citizens, and AOC allowed that to be signed in a defense bill.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

All you fucking idiots are OK with this if you didn't immeditantly go out and flag every grandma that's 5 over.

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