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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 2 points 22 hours ago

I just saw it yesterday.

It was just okay. I really wanted to like it more than I did.

I thought David Harbour's Red Guardian was his usual charismatic loser-with-a-heart greatness, and Wyatt Russell's US Agent and Lewis Pullman's Sentry were good, but the rest of the cast was forgettable, and Sebastian Stan's Bucky/Winter Soldier could have been cut out of the movie entirely.

Then there's the writing...

There's no emotional center to the story. The characters lumber and tumble from one scene to the next. As asked several times in the movie, why are these guys hanging out together?

Then there's the visual concept: Here you have a collection of great hand-to-hand fighters: A Black Widow clone, 2 Captain America clones, Ghost had an interesting fighting style, but there's barely any hand-to-hand combat to showcase their strength.

Oh sure, there was that fight in the lobby, but....

spoiler...all that's for naught, as Valentina watches her minions get beat up for a few minutes, before getting on the PA and giving them an invite upstairs.
...which I felt was infuriating as it rendered the best fight scene pointless.

And then there's the sequence where they take down the big bad...

spoiler... Void/Sentry/Bob. Comic books have never done emotional psychobabble story resolutions well, and it certainly isn't pulled off here.

Was this the MCU movie that got great reviews, and was supposed to take the franchise in a new direction, and revitalize it?

Not on your bloody life!

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like Hollywood accounting strikes again.

They'll make the money back and more on streaming and DVD sales.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Seriously though, shouldn’t the formula be updated to take all revenue sources into account and not just box office?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago

Yes. It should be updated, but they don't, so that they can underpay contributors - people who often are owed money as a percentage of the formula.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Maybe give a shit about movies besides their monetary value?

Go make a story with something worth saying instead of thinking with your number go up rat brains eh marvel.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I had not even heard of this movie until seeing this post.

Where the hell were they marketing it?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They also changed the title in the weeks leading up to release.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What was it called before?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They actually renamed it after release, I didn't realize that.
I'd share a source but I can't tell which of these many nearly identical search results isn't an ad-infested click farm.
From Thunderbolts to The New Avengers. Which is apparently a plot thing? I haven't seen it.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, they took the cast from everyones favorite movie, the blackwidow movie, and tried to make them the New Avengers... and theyre surprised no one watched it.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can we maybe have some other kinds of movies please?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You must be really sheltered if you think there's only superhero movies in theaters.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Please someone destroy my shelter with a bunker buster munition then. Don't worry I am hiding under a Palestinian hospital so I am a valid target.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

What he said was actually really funny if you're literate.