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Bolsheviks, Stonewall riots, suffragettes, all famously peaceful movements that got their rights by staying on their knees and asking nicely.
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well where the hell could I go
Outside and touch grass? Where I am it's beautiful and sunny out. Go for a run.
I just came indoors
Who wrote this article? Fairy tale bullshit??
American Revolution. French Revolution. Iranian Revolution.
Just a few very violent, and successful, revolutions.
Let me know what all the peaceful protests on climate change did leading up to and since the Paris Agreement.
Civil disobedience, including violent action, absolutely has a place in changing the policy of the state.
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This is complete utter propaganda, especially considering it's coming from the BBC. History has shown us time and time again that the ruling class never gives up its power peacefully.
General strikes accomplish a fuck of a lot more in a shorter amount of time. When the owners of the administration can't get their poptarts to the stores to be sold, the bank calls their loans and shit gets real.
Right after Covid ended, the nurses in the NYC hospitals decided that after being so heroic for over a year, they deserved raises, and some other benefits. The hospitals flat-out refused anything.
The nurses went on strike. Within 72 hours, every single one of their demands was met, including a fat raise.
Unions and strikes work.
I honestly cant recall seeing any peaceful protest accomplishing anything of significance in my lifetime. Most successful protests I hear about are the French lighting up Paris when they try to raise the retirement age. They just try again 2 years later though.
There's a book on the subject written by Srdja Popovic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint_for_Revolution
Summary: protests that start (and try to remain) non-violent have a greater chance to succeed, because they can attract more people to their cause.
Critique: with some regimes, it's not possible to non-violently protest. For non-violent protest to work, the environment must respect a minimum amount of human rights.
Case samples:
- US during the civil rights movement era: yes
- USSR under Gorbachev: yes
- Serbia under Milosevic: yes, with difficulty on every step (Popovic was there doing it)
- Israel under Netanyahu: probably yes
- China under Xi: practically no (not for long)
- USSR under Kruschev/Brezhnev/Andropov/Chernenko: not really
- Russia under Putin: no, don't even hold a blank sheet of paper
- Iran under Khamenei: only if you're doing a bread riot
- Saudi Arabia, USSR under Stalin, NK under the Kim dynasty: no, and execution would be a possible outcome
...etc. In some places, you can't organize. Then your only option is to fight. As long as you can publicly organize, definitely do so - it's vastly preferable. :)
Israel under Netanyahu: probably yes
When Palestinians protest peacefully they get shot at.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests
When foreigners peacefully protest in solidarity they get shot or run over.
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241231447/rachel-corrie-gaza-palestinians-aid-israel-hamas-war
Not sure you should include Gorbachev since he illegally dissolved the USSR against the will of the people.
Yes, the USSR, famous for respecting the will of the people ...
Srdja Popovic
LOL
https://inthesetimes.com/article/wikileaks-docs-expose-famed-serbian-activists-ties-to-shadow-cia
Telling you have the name perestroika, by the hated traitor Gorbachev putting them in misery while corrupt oligarchs from the west leeched on Russia.
LOL complete BS
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Keep Goodhart's law in mind:
"When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure"
Thanks Bernie the sheepdog.
Make sure the sheep don't make waves.
And don't forget to say pissrahell has aright to defend itself
Well that's total bs, in Greece there's been dozens of non-violent protests far exceeding 3.5% that have failed spectacularly.
Clue: peaceful protests in the entire western world achieved nothing for the past half a century. You had the massive Greece protests, the Gilets Jeunes in France, the 15-M in Spain, the Occupy Movement in the US, the BLM protests in the US too, the anti Iraq war protests all over Europe... None of them achieved anything meaningful. The EU and US are NOT democratic.
Didn't BLM 2020 protests have over 3.5%? I don't think they accomplished much except put pressure to prosecute Chauvin. Like literally just that one guy.
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