Reddit

palintir bots are also making headways into the site.

Agree. It's the nastiness that goes with it as well, if you have a different opinion you get smacked down for it. It's horrible.

Do people think there is a reason this won't happen to Lemmy eventually?

SAME. I had been very sick and off social media during the whole exodus, so had no clue about the lemmyverse, but going back to reddit the astroturfing was sooo bad, I just had to look for alternatives.

Same story. One year ago. That and stopping drinking are some of the best choices I've made in a long time.

I still use reddit occasionally for its smallest communities where I know I'm still interacting with humans. I assume the top posts are all bot posts with bots flaming bots in the comments. Everyone's time is worth more than that.

It really isn't, even on my instance used by like... 3 or 4 actual people so far, I have had more than enough spam accounts - and those were relatively harmless. Support the server admins and mods of the servers you are on/communities you are in, if able, they are the ones who are engaged in cleaning up incursions like it. Oh, and report things.

For what it's worth, I do believe the Fediverse has higher resilience, thanks to a different culture, decentralised nature (with helpful platforms like Fediseer) and a lack of the "we just need numbers as big as possible for our investors to be satisfied"-incentive to tolerate anything that looks like engagement.

Its easier to spot here, and since we're split up into small severs, its easier to moderate.

Nothing can be prevented entirely online, but empowering users with the tools to choose their own experience and tailor their feed with the communities and users they choose themselves is a giant step in the right direction.

Reddit chose the path of consolidation and central control, and the results were inevitable.

probably would get shadowban very quickly if it suddenly changes hands from inactivity, and it starts posting from atypical location, IP, or the behavior of the previous posting pattern was different. reddit currently is banning people quite easily, even if your acc isnt ban evading. high karma aged account seems to help agains tthat. but i read that accts created from the app and with google as the email seems to be preferred and slightly more resistant to the filters.

bots, on a forum i go to , they buy hundreds if not thousands of accounts to do this.

People don’t think on social media. At least average normal people don’t.

I really think that a large percentage (far from a majority, tho) of what people see as new bot activity on social media is just a rise in “normies” using things like reddit.

Just look at all the people being fooled by ridiculous AI shit.

I remember their being a lot of users saying it's "stealing" to block ads, especially on YouTube and you should definitely just sign up for premium.

Regular accounts will not have all their posts/comments nuked from a certain point in time, and they'll have comments in non-political subs mixed in.

When it's posts you agree with, it's honest users. When it's posts you disagree with, it's astroturfing.

I joke, but unfortunately that seems to be the most common metric for a lot of people. If it's a position "no one would really support" (in their view), then support for it must be astroturfed.

Many comments all pushing the exact same sentiment.

If you know the engagement metrics for how much engagement a post needs to break into the algorithm and be recommended, you can spot them because all the astroturfed posts have x# of upvotes before real conversations start when it breaks into the mainstream

The problem is, unlike most people realize, astroturfing is rarely sourced from shill accounts like it used to be. Nor are high-karma accounts being purchased.

The issue is bots and shill accounts manipulate vote counts of posts/comments with certain positions. So, you don’t tell the difference, unless you find a way to track who is voting on Reddit content.