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More than 80% of people convicted under Hong Kong’s National Security Law (NSL) have been wrongly criminalized and should never have been charged in the first place, according to new research by Amnesty International published on the fifth anniversary of the law being enacted.

The organization’s analysis of 255 individuals targeted under national security legislation in Hong Kong since 30 June 2020 also showed that bail was denied in almost 90% of cases where charges were brought, and that those denied bail were forced to spend an average of 11 months in detention before facing trial.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 18 hours ago

... so only 255 people have been arrested in five years? Or did they just leave out the part where they mention the total number of arrests?

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The analysis found that of the 78 concluded cases under the NSL at least 66 (84.6%) involved legitimate expression that should not have been criminalized according to international standards

These cases fall well short of the high threshold required for criminalization under international standards.

These people were wrongly criminalized! According to their country's laws? Well no, according to totally undefined """international standards""". Are we going to apply those standards to, for instance, checking whether people imprisoned in the US are 'wrongly criminalized'? Of course not.

After checking the most recent ten pages of articles, out of 120 entries there were five about the US, not a single one of which had anything to do with the indiscriminate mass arrests of immigrants. There are as many unique news stories about the new law in Georgia requiring foreign NGOs to disclose their sources of funding, as there are about the US in total. If you search 'ICE', there is one (1) article that mentions it in the headline, which when sorted by 'Most Relevant' is the NINTH article to appear, and which is complaining about the National Guard mobilization against the protests against ICE, not even ICE itself.

"Amnesty International" is an attack dog of the US State Department that has no purpose but to generate headlines bashing the enemies of the Empire, with the very occasional half-hearted jab at the most obviously inexcusable crimes of the US and Europe to maintain their cover as some sort of impartial third-party. On their 'Take Action' page, "Join the fight for freedom [sic] in Hong Kong" is displayed before "Lift the blockade on Gaza and stop the genocide", which should tell you everything you need to know about their priorities.

[–] Pro@reddthat.com 0 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Amnesty International Exposes Human Rights Violations at El Paso Immigrant Detention Facility May 14, 2025.

Matter of fact if you want to see them more critical of USA, there you go: Yemen: US Air Strike that has Left Dozens of Migrants Dead Must Be Investigated May 19, 2025.

If you want them to write more reports, consider supporting them, instead of complaining.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 10 points 17 hours ago

Yemen: US Air Strike that has Left Dozens of Migrants Dead Must Be Investigated

Ah good, that accounts for 1 out of the 33 articles about Yemen written since the US and Israel started indiscriminately bombing the country for daring to act against their genocide of Palestine, the rest of which are criticizing "the Huthi de facto authorities" (i.e. the legitimate government of Yemen) for various perceived infractions.

And of course, the headline is not about any of the strikes on residential apartment blocks or civilian airports or seaports, but about hitting a migrant detention facility, so that the article can go on to spend half its length complaining about "the Huthi de facto authorities" and their detainment of migrants, their 'restrictions on independent investigation', and their 'crackdown on civic spaces'.

The takeaway of the article, which pervades its entire language and tone, is that the US military needs to more carefully select and investigate its targets when bombing foreign countries, so that they only kill and destroy 'legitimate military targets' and don't accidentally harm the poor innocents who these tyrannical foreign brutes are already terrorizing, implicitly suggesting the US is somehow a thoughtful moral actor that gives even a single fuck about killing civilians, and that its enemies do actually deserve to be murdered but only in the right way with cleaner, more nuanced weaponry.

If you want them to write more reports, consider supporting them, instead of complaining.

They get all the support they need from the NED and CIA, what I want is for them to write NO reports so I never have to see another mealy-mouthed, wounded innocence "speaking truth to power" shitsmear of lies and insinuations against whoever dares to resist the will of the US State Department, when the overwhelming majority of human rights violations in the world today are very very clearly committed by the US Empire and its global proxy forces.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

“Amnesty International” is an attack dog of the US State Department that has no purpose but to generate headlines bashing the enemies of the Empire, with the very occasional half-hearted jab at the most obviously inexcusable crimes of the US and Europe to maintain their cover as some sort of impartial third-party. On their ‘Take Action’ page, “Join the fight for freedom [sic] in Hong Kong” is displayed before “Lift the blockade on Gaza and stop the genocide”, which should tell you everything you need to know about their priorities.

You didn't engage with any of the points raised by @CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net, you just ignored them.

[–] Pro@reddthat.com -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You didn't engage with any of the points raised

I did

If you want them to write more reports, consider supporting them, instead of complaining.

You just did not read it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 18 hours ago

No, I read that. Your response to Cascade's point of Amnesty International being an attack dog for the West, that doesn't actually care about human rights, was to join them, lol. Your response was just 2 somewhat anti-west articles, when he already showed you how they push some mild critique to add legitimacy while weighting their anti-enemies of Empire articles higher.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

If you want Hong Kong to pass better national security laws, consider supporting the Chinese state financially, instead of complaining about their handling of domestic matters. berdly-smug

[–] Pro@reddthat.com 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Your logic is very dumb and funny, but let me simplify it for you:

  • Supporting Amnesty = more reports and more research due to better funding.

  • Supporting CCP = more human rights abuses due to better funding.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I notice it's always the same vague term of "human rights abuses" when liberals breathlessly talk about "the CCP". Is there any reason you can't be specific, like how communists are specific about governments and policies we don't like? Like I get that the idea is to imply that there are just tooo many to name but that trick wears thin when you can never actually name them. You'll notice nobody here is talking about the zionist entity's "human rights abuses", we talk about it's ethnic cleansing and genocide. I live in the country with the world's biggest population of prison slaves, so I just say that. So please, what do you actually mean by "human rights abuses"?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Pro@reddthat.com -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Your state department propaganda posting, try being less obvious/more competent

[–] Pro@reddthat.com -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Your state department propaganda posting

Says the guy who is defending a authoritarian government.

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Every government is authoritarian. You’re just probably lucky enough to never have had a government on your back.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago

Wielding authority is morally neutral, what matters is who wields it and how. The US engages in constant surveillance of our own citizens and other countries, has military bases on every continent, has been at war nonstop for our entire 2+ century existence, has the largest prison population on earth and explicit legal allowance for prison slave labor, and is currently the largest material supporter of the Palestinian genocide. China may not be perfect but they're not even close to the worst offender on human rights, your priorities betray your fundamentally biased political agenda.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 18 hours ago