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Facing Billions in DMA Fines, Apple Lets EU iPhone Users Install Apps Outside the App Store (www.cnet.com)

submitted 1 day ago by Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world

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[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Apple notes that off-store downloads work only inside the EU, and disappear if you stay outside the bloc for more than 30 days.

Assholes.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago

They should hit Apple with the penalty for breaking the spirit of the agreement.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if Europeans should have a case when they want to do 31 days of business travel and Apple cut off their apps.

“No problem, here’s the exemption form; please attach your itinerary and a blood sample”

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s what Apple Vision Pro is for. Now, you can stay home and imagine your destination in isolation. And you’ll have to stay home because the battery life will keep you tethered to a pretty reliable power source.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 1 points 22 hours ago

META -$70b on Metaverse likes the sound of Apple trying the same :)

[–] parody@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anyone know the whole range of the enabling technologies for the geofencing?

Look at the nearby WiFi networks, check GPS, see what cell towers are around, (Apple account registration location)…?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Core Location is a multi-sensor system process in iOS. GPS, WiFi, cellular, Bluetooth, accelerometer, altimeter in order (as of ~5 years ago)

[–] shea@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 21 hours ago

https://lagrangepoint.substack.com/p/airpods-hearing-aid-hacking#footnote-1-151260143

I wonder if this method would work

[–] parody@lemmings.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In April, the European Commission fined Apple €500 million ($585 million) for blocking developers from steering users to cheaper payment options, and warned that daily penalties of up to 5% of global revenue could follow if it failed to comply.

LMAOOOO get fucked, Apple we love your hardware and your software (when properly tested first), but given you’ve had a great run with the fees now it’s time to let us own our hardware at least a little.

5%? Not messing around. No wrist slap there.

Let’s go freedom, let’s go Apple-but-the-right-way (please)!

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

5% daily, of global revenue.

Now that's how penalties should work.

[+] rdri@lemmy.world -8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

With all respect for people who hate Apple (myself included), this doesn't look like how penalties should work. I doubt there are adequate standards of how an entity like EU can request any percentage of global revenue from anyone. What would you do if you request any more than Apple considers adequate and decides it's more profitable to just leave your market?

[–] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Problem is companies like to use global accounting schemes to hide/move profit.

If it was “5% of profit in the EU” then overnight Apple would suddenly make 0 profit in the EU due to “brand licensing fees” to Apple Cayman Islands Incorporated.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They cannot request it from anyone, only for those who chose to operate in EU jurisdiction.

Apple is free to not operate in the EU.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

And I would welcome that. Most other people will probably not though.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 23 hours ago

What would you do if you request any more than Apple considers adequate and decides it's more profitable to just leave your market?

Cheer?

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know, I'm still waiting for you to describe the problem.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is how government entities dictate media corporations what to do. This time it's pro-consumer, the other time it might not be so.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's not a problem, its exactly what governments exist for. Creating and enforcing laws.

The problem us that some corporations manage to manipulate governments by bribery to avoid regulation, not that government or regulations exist.

Are you a libertarian?

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Nah I'm just Russian. Our government is an example of a problem, they tried to manipulate Apple and Google, and was successful to some extent.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No “just” is the beauty

Sure, they can try, I suppose… but that’s a lotta billions and a huge % of global rev

[–] ActuallyGoingCrazy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Whoever picked that color scheme is nuts. I can barely tell which are supposed to be the Americas and Europe.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Ya it’s bad

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I mean it's kind of classic issues with unions. It doesn't work if only place is doing it, but the more that do, the less market they have access to. Europe is a pretty decent sized market, so it may still hurt. And if they do leave, well China certainly has a lot of their own homegrown solutions, so that's not an entirely unreasonable option.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 day ago

Get fucked Tim Apple, a disgusting corpo parasite.