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cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/post/977608

The new tool, called Mobile Fortify, uses the CBP system which ordinarily takes photos of people when they enter or exit the U.S., according to internal ICE emails viewed by 404 Media. Now ICE is using it in the field.

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[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 117 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure this is completely accurate technology and isn't racist in any way. /S

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 days ago

I'm sure they don't know that and they totally didn't pick this inaccurate method on purpose too /s

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well, maybe not the Indy 500, but probably would flag the Gran Prix since that's not 'MURICAN!

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Than why is it called racism

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Because ICE knows that Trump ain't gonna be alive for a whole lot longer, so they're trying to beat the clock in their quest to remove everyone who isn't a White Christian Evangelical from the country. It's a race against time, ergo it's racism.

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[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Using facial id software on people while wearing a fucking mask. What happened, guys?! I thought you couldn't breathe under there!

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 55 points 4 days ago

Looks like Palantir's shit is already in action...

[–] NRay7882@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Boy, it sure would be annoying if someone started to flood their tip line with fake reports. I'd hate to think of the wasted time they'd have to dedicate investigating each of these claims.

[–] VitoRobles 15 points 4 days ago

And it'll be ashame to do it in small conservative towns.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It would be best if done on a burner with a different IMEI & IMSI while also not at a place related to where you frequent. The FBI (who now has fewer resources than ICE) were using facial recognition and cell phone data to identify large groups of the opposition not too long ago. It wouldn't be a stretch to think ICE is going to do the same.

[–] ramenbelly@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Bear in mind what AOC told us about the "Big Beautiful Bill". ICE now has a bigger budget than the FBI, DEA and Bureau of Prisons combined. After they zip-tie you and throw you in the van they can light their Cuban cigars with $100 bills.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Considering that the US still does not have any kind of working national census, and only relies of the deeply flawed social security system for a national ID database, I wonder how accurate this system is

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 days ago

Considering they're just looking for a pretext to arrest someone, I think it's accurate enough for them.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not, but it might be enough to reduce the ridiculously high number of erroneous ~~kidnappings~~ detentions. Not that they give enough of a fuck to be embarrassed by their ineptitude, but even they recognize that screwing up so much only serves to give their critics (additional) legitimacy.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

False positives are more common than false negatives.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They probably just use Facebook + LinkedIn or other public databases. I remember a project on hackaday of someone who did something similar and found with some basic programming, it's definitely possible to get some matches. But that was years ago.

[–] machineunlearning@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

They are using the CBP database according to that article.. who knows what version two will have though

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What a shame it'd be if the app/database got hacked and everything got deleted so ICE couldn't identify anyone /s

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Decline to use facial rec at airports due to this shit

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Decline? You think you have a choice?

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

You actually explicitly do have a choice

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[–] mystik@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They already have your face when you got your license @ your local DMV.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 9 points 3 days ago

Don't be defeatist. Every new capture benefits them, and every refusal takes that away from them.

"Well, you know where the exit is."

[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago

Hello Americans... welcome to the forth Reich!

[–] susurrus0@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

I thought they didn't care about the identity and just kidnapped whoever they felt like. Do they really need this?

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

... for now.

[–] fujiwara@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They’re trying to criminalize it in my state

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[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I predict it being ubiquitous one day, where everyone has the ability to id others. It's already a thing in los Angeles. Also, I was just reading about how a person's gait can be used to identify someone, so wearing a mask won't be enough. Technology is just gonna get better.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Try reading my gait when I'm on an escooter/bike/whatever and recognising my face from behind a full face helmet. (I'm just being safe.)

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

People use reverse image search today to stalk women. It's horrible

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Wear Juggalo make up. Doubt they are using depth perception. Since that data would probably not be available.

time for every immigrant to change style, grow a beard/shave it, change hair cut. start using makeup.

question, would that work?

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Got it. So everyone wears cardboard cut out masks.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With Trump's face pasted on them.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

"Felon detected!"

[–] catty@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

What would happen if these people started those bleaching tablets, like MJ used...

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That just makes me wanna wear my nondescript ball cap & aviators with a medical mask.

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