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Or the rap artist "Jay-Zed"?

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[–] DarienGS@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

We always say "Zee Zee Top" - I think there's a sort of unspoken acceptance that they've earnt it. But you sometimes hear people say "Jay-Zed", normally as a bit of gentle mockery.

[–] Sheltac@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Jay-Zed as a joke is definitely something I’ve done.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (5 children)
[–] Oka@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago
[–] RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.ninja 5 points 11 months ago

Oh god that's hilarious

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

I like to say Bradley Pitt.

[–] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago

More like 40p now, thanks decades of Tory "leadership"!

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[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ugh, double post

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[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Ah, so I'm guessing it wasn't "Dragon Ball Zed" either, then.

I guess that makes sense, the Rush song doesn't become YYZee in the US (mostly).

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It is in french. In the intro song it sounds like they sing "dragon boule zedde".

Boule (kind of ) being pronounced as "bool" ( from boolean )

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[–] bomberesque1@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I know people who say zed zed top, but only in jest

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[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 47 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Am in Australia, we use 'zed' for the letter 'z'. but it's different for the band, as that's a proper name. You go with the pronunciation of the owner of the name.

[–] Billy_Gnosis@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

What about a Datsun 240z? Don't you say 240zed?

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 40 points 11 months ago

My buddy once showed me a funny interaction in the comments under a Top Gear video about the Corvette Z06. Being from the UK, the called it the Zed-06. But someone in the comments claimed that it should be pronounced Zee-06. The conversation went something like this:

"Why does he keep saying Zed-06? It's Zee-06."

"Because in England, where this video was made, we say 'zed'"

"Well, in America, where the car was made, we say 'zee'"

"Well, in England, where English was made, we say, 'zed'"

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes indeed, but I guess that's because a model designation doesn't feel the same as a proper noun - it's just numbers and letters. Maybe..?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah if I saw a BMW 3 series I wouldn't use the German pronunciation for 3. Why use the American pronunciation of Z?

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh? Doesn't everyone call it a BMW Drei? 😄

[–] matter@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The difference to me is that a model number is primarily written, not spoken, information, while "Z Z Top" is meant to be spoken before written

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

My mate had a Nissan Z something and yes we'd call it the Nissan Zed.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I'm Canadian and don't know anything about Datsuns so I'd say 240 zed lol

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

I may be just making fun of those vehicles but I call them a 24 oz or the newer ones are a 35 oz.

[–] barrage4u@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm Aussie and say 240zee, but I'm also a dutch immegrant and into cars

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Same in Canada. It's Zee Zee top.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly this. Unless I am intentionally being an arse by refusing to read American products which rely on the Z being read as "zee" to work in the intended pronunciation. It's the little things that make life worth living, y'know.

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[–] livus@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I come from a "zed" country but we normally use the pronunciation of the people/creators.

So if I were reading the name "Jay-Z" for the first time and had never heard of him, I would think it was pronounced Jay-Zed or maybe Jays, but when I heard his name said by others I mentally adjusted it to Jay Zee.

[–] sarsaparilyptus@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago

I do the same thing in reverse, I live in Zee territory but I always pronounced the ZX Spectrum as Zed-Ex

[–] agissilver@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Imagine if the whole alphabet was like zed instead of like zee:

a bed ced ded ed f ged h i j k l m n o ped q r s ted u ved w x y zed

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ged

Is this pronounced 'ged' or 'ged'?

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[–] Kuroshio@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I.. unironically don't hate this!

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I had ties to both Zee and Zed-speakers growing up, but in my experience, Zee and Zed can be used somewhat interchangeably, even across the pond. This might be in order to account for names (like Z Z Top and Jay Z), puns (such as La-Z for lazy) or even ease of pronounciation - when playing CSGO, I've heard Americans refer to the CZ-75 as Cee-Zed-Seventy-Five, because they found it weird to switch between the cee, zee and seven sounds, but I'm not sure how common this is.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

CeeZee SeventyFive is easy to say, it even rhymes at the starting bit

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[–] ShakyPerception@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Asking the real questions.

… and I hope to the gods it’s Jay-Zed

[–] Mister_Rogers@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As a Canadian it really depends whether I say Zee or Zed. Looking online I was surprised to see that it has apparently been Zed in Canada for a long time, but I distinctly recall being raised on Zee until about the mid 2000s then everywhere in the curriculum it was Zed and I started hearing it more. Probably the biggest influence on whether I say Zee or Zed just depends on pop norms, and what sounds better.

Some examples:

  • Zee Zee Top, obviously
  • Jay Zee
  • 350Zed and 370Zed (in reference to Nissan's sportscar models, this actually changed for me over time, for the longest time I would say 350Zee or 370Zee, but when referring to the model broadly, it's always Zee Cars, or for the classic model, it's Fairlady Zee. Fairlady Zed just sounds awful)
  • Day-Zee (the movie and video game)
  • Dragon Ball Zee (ALWAYS, Dragon Ball Zed would be madness, I've never even considered saying Zed here, perhaps because I encountered it more in my Zee prevalent childhood)
  • Zed-DX (the Acura)
  • BMW Zed4
  • La-Zee-boy (the sofas, obviously, ruins the pun otherwise)
  • Alfa Romeo SZed (another car, it seems any time it is separate letters or a series of letter making up a name it's virtually always Zed)
  • ABC song, is always Zee for me, but I've heard others say Zed her often. To me it's weird because otherwise it doesn't rhyme with "next time won't you sing with me". Oddly if you asked me to say the alphabet backwards though, my first instinct would also be Zee.
  • the phrase "from A to Zee"
  • If you asked me what the last letter of the alphabet is, or to spell Zebra, I would say Zee, it seems when referring to the letter alone I pretty consistently use Zee
  • I just asked my wife to spell Zebra and she said Zee though

At least the British and Americans are consistent, I don't even know what the heck I'm doing here!

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Day-Zee (the movie and video game)

This one is kind of fascinating to me, because even being from the US, I feel like Zed works better when it's zombie-related. Probably both due to Shaun of the Dead ("Not using the Zed word!"), and because that makes it rhyme with "dead".

[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I'll ever get Zedbra or Lay-Zed-Boy out of my head now. I love it.

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[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Here in Australia where we also pronounced z as zed not zee, I've never heard anyone say zed zed top and it's always zee zee top. However, while I personally would too rarely find myself on a conversation about Jay-Z to be able to gather enough data to form a conclusion, I vaguely feel like I've people both say Jay-Zed and also Jay-Zee though I'm not quite sure.

I think the thing is, without being able to explain why, Zed Zed top just seems too obviously not the intended pronunciation that it's just a no brainer to interpret it as Zee knowing that they're American and American culture being so ubiquitous that everybody knows you guys say Zee. Jay Z theoretically should fall under the same rule but I think it's easy enough to say Jay Zed without it feeling weird and wrong that same people might opt for their familiar Z pronunciation over the source Z pronunciation, though I'd say it's not typical.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago
[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

If it’s a company name or a band or something then I’ll say zee. But acronyms like ZFS are always zed.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I always wondered how do we pronounce the videogame "DayZ"? Is it like "daisies"?

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

It's supposed to be day-zee but I used to say day-zed to annoy a friend who played it lol

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, I think I would pronounce it Dayzee, even though I'm Canadian

[–] DeusHircus@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

Day-zee. Definitely not daisies, maybe similar to daisy but there's a pause and different emphasis while saying it

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