Imagine paying $450 for nintendo to play judge and jury over your property
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While I still have a nostaligic soft spot for Nintendo IPs like Mario and Metroid, I'll never give Nintendo a cent again for being a bunch of greedy asshats. Emulators are love, emulators are life, fuck Nintendo.
Imagine buying a hardware, and the manufacturer holds it hostage and can brick it anytime, or it can ban you from all online activities, unless you use it as intended.
It just happens that intended use also maximises profit for them.
Fuck Nintendo sideways.
Fuck Nintendo
Yeah, literally nobody in my circle of gamer friends and acquaintances has any interest whatsoever in buying the new Switch. Not a single one. Not even the ones that were previously diehard Nintendo and Zelda fans.
Zero.
Crap like this is really underscoring why. Nintendo has ramped up their already user-hostile behavior far beyond the point of absurdity.
The happy-fluffy-starry-eyed wording in this article taking great pains to point out how "easy" it was for this person to have their fraudulent ban reversed are doing way too much heavy lifting. It never should have happened in the first place, and there shouldn't even be any mechanism that makes it a remote possibility.
And then there's this:
Nevertheless, it remains unclear whether they can still play with the used game cartridges they purchased, or if these are considered pirated copies that could result in another console ban if used.
Uh-huh. Miss me with every single molecule of that shit.
Holy crap that was a fast reply lol. The part where they were like “at least it’s not as bad as m$ and Sony” like bruh THEY SHOULDNT BE DOING THIS AT ALL
This is significantly worse than anything I've experienced from Microsoft. I've never heard stories of consoles just getting bricked. I'm sure they exist, but it didn't make the news from frequency. Consoles shouldn't be bricked.
Just to clarify, the console wasn't bricked, only banned from online use. Which also means banned from accessing eshop or downloading any updates. But physical games that doesn't require online would work fine.
Not that this is fine, shouldn't be banned for this either, but just clarifying the bricking part.
But physical games that doesn’t require online would work fine.
Do we know this for sure? On the original Switch, when new games came out, they often would refuse to play until you updated the firmware on the console. So depending on whether they allow banned consoles to update their firmware, offline games might not work either.
I wonder if a banned console could download a game from a game key card, because if it can't, then there's not much of a difference between a ban and a brick.
For future games yeah, but there's a huge Switch 1 library that a banned system can play but bricked system can't.
Also funnily enough, I believe they can safely play the "backed-up" games offline, that originally got the Switch banned. 😀
I had a friend that went to the store at midnight to get the Nintendo he pre ordered.... Some people just don't care unfortunately
Reason number 245 of why not to buy a Nintendo switch.
It’s just not nearly as nefarious as it sounds. This person basically won the anti-lottery of buying a used game that was ripped and distributed on a piracy site and flagged by Nintendo. The chances of that happening when you buy a used game are unlikely as fuck… but because it can happen to individuals, they asked for a little proof that this user was telling the truth and then unbanned him when he provided it.
This isn’t something that’s going to happen to many people realistically but it’s nice that there’s a solution if it does.
It's guilty until proven innocent on a device the person owns enforced by the company that made it.
Fuck that.
No company should have the power to brick a device because it isn't being used the way they want.
I don't want to play a numbers game with factors I have no control over, nor visibility into.
I do wonder what a more permanent solution for these sorts of situations could be, as right now these things are case by case. Either Nintendo tolerates the use of cloned cartridge IDs (which is something no game company/publisher/whatever have you would ever accept), or they bring down the ban hammer on random people who just bought a used game and had no idea it was used for copying (which is just a dick move). Nobody buying a used game is going to have any real idea where it came from, and in a lot of used stores the carts probably get mixed around anyway. Having any sort of checker for cloned IDs would also be difficult, as Nintendo's systems probably only catch it when both are in use at the same time. Perhaps they could use some system to look for MIG Switch use specifically, and only block that cartridge? That would probably be the best way to go about it, but I'm not so sure about the technical details that would make such a thing work, as it would require some reverse engineering of the MIG Switch.
EDIT: I do think as well this article is too generous to Nintendo. The writer focuses on how easy it was to get unbanned, rather than the ban in the first place. Nintendo should at least start sending an email warning or something before deciding to block online. That would give people a change to figure out what is going on, instead of waking up one day to find they can't access the eShop or GameChat.
There's a darker solution, which is what nintendo would love more: kill the second hand market.
And these moves might very well do it. If news spread and people start getting scared of buying a used game, second hand sales will drop and eventually die. Something that can only benefit nintendo.
I have a foolproof way to never get banned on switch 2.
- Don't buy a switch 2.
Damn. The people who work at Nintendo truly are assholes. I'll never buy a single product associated with these morally and creatively bankrupted people.
I got one as a gift, but I'm not sure why they're selling so well. I haven't bought a single new game for it yet. There's nothing I wanna play until maybe Metroid.
Well, launch year sales are generally by enthusiasts. I got one cause I love my Switch, and my wish for Switch 2 was faster and better Switch, which is exactly what they gave us. So, bought it as soon as I could.
As for games, looking forward to Donkey Kong Bananza, not to mention I have a many Switch 1 games that I have yet to play, so don't have any shortage of games.
Yeah, I'm appreciating how quickly the Switch games are loading. Smash, Zelda, and Splatoon used to frustrate me a bit with their load times.
I'd just turn it off and keep it offline so that you're on the lowest possible firmware for potential future exploits
Then 🏴☠️
New DK game this week looks sick though
Imagine if this happened to a child, or someone who's got no knowledge about the topic. Your 600$ birthday gift will just rest in piss, because you bought a game someone had cloned previously, and there's 0 way to know about it, until you're already banned
Same would happen with the Switch 1 if you play pirated games through sigpatch though
Nintendo is going to die a slow painful death bcz of shit like this. I dont know a single person who wants a switch 2.
If you don't know anyone, could you point me to a store that has them in stock?
Constantly sold out here in Japan. Even the discounted Japan-only version that was meant to stop foreign purchase and resale with more restrictions such as Japanese-language-only
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I just had an interesting exchange with a nintendrone about this topic. Apparently, nintendo did the right thing because the guy who bought the game shouldn't go buying from shady people and, even if it was a store, then, the store is at fault (and not Nintendo), because the store should test the games they buy to guarantee that they won't cause a ban.
But in no way was Nintendo at fault for treating their customers as guilty until proven innocent.