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[–] MadnessForTsar@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

Does that group also the same one who defending the release of "cuties" before?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 44 points 1 day ago (6 children)

OK now I am not one to lob accusations without evidence, but for any of you kind government agents or AIs reading this, let’s say from anywhere within the Five Eyes since we’re talking about Australia:

We have another fanatical religious conservative organization here that is publicly labeling opposition groups pedos. You know how this has trended in the past. Keep an eye on these people.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

We have another fanatical religious conservative organization here that is publicly labeling opposition groups pedos.

projection. they want a monopoly on skeezing on the kiddos.

for some reason people will bend themselves into pretzels to give religious people a pass on buggery. here in washington state, we passed a law mandating the reporting of abused children. conservatives and religious types want to keep these children in their abuse.

https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2025/07/18/judge-blocks-wa-requirement-for-priests-to-report-child-abuse-disclosed-in-confession/

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Don't be silly. Government surveillance isn't for the protection of the people, it's for the protection of the government.

Has the NSA ever caught a terrorist with their massively invasive privacy violating programs, spending the money on that instead of making people better to not become terrorists? Ask the NSA, they'll tell you they haven't stopped a single one.

Government surveillance is in service to these people, why else would they care about the privacy and consent of adults in their free time?

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah yes, now anyone who enjoys wanking themselves off in private, is also a Pedo, because they ran out of mean words.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not just any pedo, but a brain-rotted pedo.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

That's presidential material !

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's been wild watching that word lose every last bit of meaning over the past few years

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Almost like it's the goal. It's not, they're just hacky idiots, but it's almost like that...

[–] WorldsDumbestMan 2 points 17 hours ago

It is, and we need a counter-force.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (19 children)

I truly don't understand how Visa/MasterCard/etc can be pressured. They are basically infrastructure.

What's someone going to do, stop using credit cards if they don't stop a store that person doesn't even patronize from selling morally hazardous goods?

I don't get how these campaigns are even effective.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 7 points 19 hours ago

The thing is they are American corporations who care to much about their public image. I would be highly suprised if they national payment platforms would also accept this. (ideal/bankcontant/wero/etc)

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Probably just worried Trump will over regulate them if they don’t fall in line with the Christian Radicals.

They pressure payment processors through reputation damage and regulatory threats - these companies are terrified of being associated with anything that could trigger banking regulations or get them labeled as "enabling" problematic content in the media, its purely a risk management desicion for them.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are we wagering this absurdity is built on projection?

cause I'm wagering this absurdity is built on them projecting.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It always is. These are the type of folks who have that feeling of shame wash over after they bust a nut to something they "despise."

That literally all these types of groups are. They want us to feel the same shame, too. I wish folks could just keep their shit to themselves. Have rules for your own home, sure, but eat shit and rot if you think you should be able to tell me how I should live my life.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I draw the line at abuse, but yeah, otherwise agree.

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[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Really goes to show people. It doesn’t matter the religion. They all are bullshit machines for people to act superior than others. Fuck these twat waffles.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 79 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Collective Shout claim it’s about harm reduction, but then push an agenda that functionally amounts to moral panic.

Their approach is identical in logic to the “GTA causes school shootings” hysteria: loud, pearl-clutching, and utterly unmoored from data.

If Collective Shout want to argue these games cause harm, then show us the harm. Not correlation. Not outrage. Not hypothetical downstream consequences. Show causation. Peer-reviewed. Reproducible.

Otherwise, they’re just moralizing bullies using the banking system as a cudgel.

On top of this, they might actually be harming their own cause. The catharsis hypothesis poses that sexual fantasy enactment might reduce risk of real world harm.

The logic is simple: suppressing a compulsion doesn't eliminate it. It just bottles up until it explodes. Redirect it into a safe outlet, and it becomes manageable.

The only reason this research isn't cited more often is because it's politically radioactive. Nobody wants to admit that it's better to let a gooners jerk off, than to escalate under repression.

The burden of proof SHOULD be on Collective Shout to provide a reasonable argument which supports their claim that censorship will reduce real world harm.

Current working theory in psychology: it doesn't. Emerging theory suggests: they're shooting themselves (and potential rape victims) in the foot.

The real solution to real-world harm involves empathy, autonomy and education.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Furthermore...

Their decision to target the payment processors - not the developers, or itch.io, or steam, is some of the most cowardly and authoritarian things I've ever seen in the gaming space.

It's economic coercion; a playbook used by religious bigots and authoritarians for decades. Financial censorship by proxy. IMO: they should fuck off.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (7 children)

They are religious nutjobs, they don't care about causation.

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[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The same group who complained Detroit Become Human is bad for glorifying child abuse and women abuse. Yet supported Cuties....

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's because they want real child abuse. Not that fake stuff

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[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like how the language is ‘claims responsibility.’ You know. Like terrorist groups do after an attack

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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 154 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here's something I've noticed. Whenever someone describes a group, individual, activity, or anything else with more than 2 negative adjectives in a row, they're probably saying something deeply unstable. This is one of those times.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I take offense to this generalization. When I call someone an honorless gormless bitch ass motherfucker I'm relieving stress so when fists start flying I ain't blinded by my own anger, my instability is only mildly correlated to my verbosity.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Let me sit you down when I say this... but if you're getting into fights even after relieving stress... it either doesn't work, or you're behaving in an unstable manner.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 102 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

It's a Christian fascist org, so there's a 100% likelihood of mental illness.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 83 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Hold up, all this shit because of an extremist group, *in Australia, where half the M games on the market already can't be sold, is driving global payment processor behavior?!?

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