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[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing] I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing] Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing] Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

[a confused nazi asks] Why… why are they still arguing?

https://thebad.website/comic/infighting

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo unless it's an actual progressive 😮‍💨

[–] Zenjal@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

People, people, people, we can kill each other AFTER the fascist are gone, please and thank you.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 points 6 days ago

Chinese civil war be like:

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The People's Front of Judea vs the Judean People's Front

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why are you all trying to have a serious discussion under a comic strip?

[–] KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Where else should we have a serious discussion?

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 4 points 5 days ago

In a comic strip club.

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[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the nazis should be congratulating themselves on sowing discord, distracting those that could resist with bullshit

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This thread keeps popping up and it just clicked and I had to ask:

Is the guy in the red shirt supposed to be Vaush?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago

Would be funny considering how much Vaush hates Marxism-Leninism.

[–] Bad@jlai.lu 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's the factory preset look for these pseudo-tankies that show up in my local activism group every now and then.

Always the big earring, unkempt beard, this specific shape of glasses, and the cheap aliexpress t-shirt with a political message on it.

Not my fault Vaush stole the look!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

pseudo-tankies

I'm not even sure whether this is supposed to be an insult anymore. Is a "tankie" better or worse than a "fake tankie"?

In a thread complaining about leftist infighting, there's a special irony in liberals singing out a leftist who is simultaneously too far left and not far left enough.

[–] Bad@jlai.lu 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

It's a specific type of leftist we have in my country, french communists are a… special breed, let's say.

In the 1980s our communist party bulldozed a migrant worker dormitory because they hated migrants that much. Red MAGA or something. The party recovered from that era, but french communists are still chauvinistic, xenophobic, and strangely not that much into anti-imperialism (which is meant to be the redeeming quality of tankies). They do however share with tankies the traits of applying "class first" logic to a lot of conversations, which makes them deathly allergic to intersectionality, and being terminally online and way into infighting. Thus they usually end up booted from actual activist groups, since they tend to hold us back and prevent us from actually getting shit done in the streets.

Hence me calling them pseudo-tankies because it's hard to label them. We just call them tankies here: they're members of a party that supported the crushing of the hungarian uprising with soviet tanks, and is ambiguous about tienanmen (no denying it happened but very alt-history about it), so pro-tanks they are.

I have an easier time getting along with the average online american tankie than with our local communist party's members.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The party recovered from that era, but french communists are still chauvinistic, xenophobic, and strangely not that much into anti-imperialism

Yeah, that's been a problem in the US as well, under "Patriotic Communism". But it's also largely artificial - a product of party decay to the point that fascists can sock puppet the leftist labels without actually pursuing leftist policy.

Hence me calling them pseudo-tankies because it’s hard to label them.

One problem that really does plague leftist organizing is state espionage. It has become almost a running joke that half your local DSA meeting is going to be NYPD and FBI informants fighting for front row seats.

But that's also more a legacy of Nixon/Reagan Era COINTELPRO, with the modern state security forces scrambling to invent incidents to thwart from whole cloth.

What I see labeled "Tankie" in the modern moment is anyone championing AES. For some reason, the greatest betrayal of any kind of revolution is... winning? So every socialist politician from Fidel Castro to Hugo Soto-Martínez is doing authoritarian stateism by being inside the halls of power, rather than outside waving a paper placard.

I have an easier time getting along with the average online american tankie than with our local communist party’s members

That's a shame.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I looked it up, and yep, looks like the PCF abandoned Marxism-Leninism in 1979 and adopted Eurocommunism, which is a vulgarization of Marxism that upholds western imperialism. MLs would consider them to be patsocs, same as the American Communist Party which espouses "MAGA Communism."

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought maga communism was a joke.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

We all wish it was...

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

chauvinistic, xenophobic, and strangely not that much into anti-imperialism

Sounds like Nazbol to me.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A professor in college once said something that stayed with me. He said that "bad ideologies will always find ways to self implode".

This stuck with me because it's true. Good ideologies tend to be pragmatic and flexible, and so they're able to adapt and evolve. However, bad ideologies tend to be more rigid and focus mostly on theories and ideals, and therefore they're unable to adapt or evolve. Far left ideologies firmly fall in the latter category which is why they are where they are.

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