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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by npdean to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

And omg! I have slept on this feature for so long. I assumed it was just dragging windows to corners and they snap on to the left or right back or top. Then, I installed PopOS and saw an explicit button to turn on windows tiling but I was already using the drag function, so I was confused. I turned it on and omg! I have not felt more stupid and happily surprised by a piece of tech in a while. It just works. I don’t have to be worry about arranging windows a special way for multitasking or for following guides. So much time saved.

How to make the most of it? Have you had a similar experience with something?

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

is there a good video demonstrating it? I use Cinnamon on Linux Mint and want to know what I'm missing out on.

[–] july@leminal.space 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You can use gtile on mint. It’s in the extensions settings

[–] martinb@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

TIL. Thanks

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[–] TechnoCat@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I believe pop does a river style tiling system. Look up videos on Niri, Cosmic, or PaperWM.

There are many other tiling types too. River is however my favorite and I think most intuitive. Other popular ones are Sway, i3, and HyprLand.

https://youtu.be/_q8j70wY8wo

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[–] npdean 2 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly I am new to this, so I could not find anything for it. But I think YouTube will have a video or two.

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I started with pop!_os and still use it (though now with a proper TWM on top), and I can't go back to a non-tiling desktop honestly lol. I can't wait for COSMIC to come out as even in alpha that's my favourite tiling experience

[–] npdean 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which TWM? What is the advantage over the default one?

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've tried out a bunch, but at the moment I've mainly been playing around with hyprland, cause it's also a dynamic tiler and im used to that layout now

The main advantage to me tbh is that certain windows don't overflow the assigned tile space like in pop-shell (this is also fixed in cosmic), but there are other things like having all your move/resize actions on the main mod layer instead of needing to enter adjust mode (super + enter is the default keybind on pop-shell), and the fact it uses wayland instead of x11

Of course there are also things that can be downsides depending on how you see it, like the fact it's a TWM not a desktop, which means if you want to adjust any setting you'll need to manually adjust config files, and that it doesn't come with things like a top bar or app launcher etc. So it can take a while to get up and running

[–] npdean 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you use it for? How much does it make your experience better?

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

What do you use it for?

Everything? Lol. I mean.. I just run my desktop in hyprland, no matter what im doing. Which for me I guess is gaming, drawing, some coding, and writing.. oh and tinkering with linux (though honestly I mostly do that in VMs)

How much does it make your experience better?

I'd say it's an improvement over GNOME :p.. though I have enough issues with the configs that I wouldn't really recommend it unless you have issues with GNOME that majorly bother you.. or unless you use one of the premade dotfile configs that people make lol..

For me being able to adjust the windows with my keyboard without needing to enter a special mode for it, and having windows forced into the tile size was worth it, as it was something that was a pet peeve of mine (and now I get to be annoyed by trying to set up my waybar vertically, tradeoffs lol)

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I installed I3 a few times. I did not get it and I was to lazy to look up how to use it. Somehow your post made me install it again. This time I took that moment to look up how to use it. Less than 15 min later I found myself banging my head against the wall. Should have looked it's usage up the first time I installed it. This is what I need like 70% of the time. THNX!

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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You could try also:

  • GNOME PaperWM, a GNOME extension with tiling and endless horizontal scrolling
  • niri
  • StumpWM, a tiling WM with Emacs-like keybindings (and zero eyecandy and waste of screen estate)
  • HerbstluftWM
[–] koala@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, came here to mention PaperWM. I used xmonad in the past, but I executed it on top of Mate to have an "easy" desktop environment.

Nowadays Gnome extensions providing tiling is the equivalent "easy" method. Gnome is not for everyone, but it works out of the box- then you add the fancy tiling window management on top.

For people who have bounced off systems that require much more set up, I think they are a good option.

[–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, it was a revelation when I discovered tiling. I was always doing work with two windows open, and i'd spend so much time fiddling and resizing the windows. Then i'd open a third window and wouldn't know what to do with it.

I used i3 for many years and switched to sway when migrating to wayland. It does what I need and see no reason to try hyprland or other tilers.

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[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Too much people, including some popular youtuber, dont understand how tilling WMs make life easier.

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[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 7 points 2 weeks ago

I've used i3wm for a long time now before switching to hyprland. The top useful thing: Workspaces. Even without tiling, workspaces give a massive productivity boost. You can have email clients open on one, monitoring systems on another, browsing on a third, gaming on a fourth. When you combine with tiling, everything is in its own perfect space and nothing overlaps. This is especially useful on single-monitor or laptop setups as you don't need multiple monitors to keep track of everything.

I also see people struggle with notifications tiling. You probably don't want a bluetooth connected message to take up half your screen, so you'll want to make sure to properly configure those things. At least in i3wm/hyprland, you can use the window class name to exclude a window from tiling (ex. for_window [class="mako"] floating enable or windowrulev2 = float,class:^(mako)$).

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How to make the most of it?

Use workspaces, I almost never used it before because I was set in my ways, but after switching to tiling WM it's a must and increases productivity by a LOT, I've grown so used to it that using windows with a mouse feels super clunky and cluttered.

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[–] atk007@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well I recently tried Niri, a scrolling window manager and felt the same.

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds interesting. It is a whole new world

[–] atk007@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. I have been using tiling managers for years now but if you tile too much on a single workspace, you make windows too small as you run out of space. Niri allows you to extend the same workforce by scrolling sideways or down, so you can keep windows organized like you want in the same workspace.

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have noticed in comments and other online forums that people with smaller screens don’t like tiling due to this exact thing. This is a solution, sadly not implemented widely.

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[–] BeN9o@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was using mint and found Gtile, I loved it, now I've moved to Fedora (KDE Plasma) and can't get anything as good as Gtile :(

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I use this for KDE tilling https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite

Edit: It is the active fork of krohnkite, the official repo is dead since 2022.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even just the key combos (win+numpad) to do basic tiling in XFCE are a huge plus

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I use XFCE when not on tiling WMs

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this a thing on all DEs?

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

to tell you the truth, I don't know! I think I just saw someone asking about tiling window managers in some forum, and a reply suggested trying the xfce functions since they mostly just wanted to use two side-by-side windows occasionally. I do it a good chunk of the time now, but it's not always the most convenient method on small screens & monitors

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know how anyone does anything with tiling windows. They must all be sooooo small...

[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

You don't usually have them all open at the same time, you minimize some. Or maybe you add more monitors.

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[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago

At most I have about 3 windows open at a time per workspace with 4 workspaces being used at a time for specific tasks. With the combo of tiling and workspaces I have never run into an instance of "clutter" on my desktop. This is off a single monitor setup too that I also use on my laptop.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Buy a large 4k tv (like 48"+) to use as a monitor and use it without scaling. It'll have similar DPI to am average 2.5k monitor, but you'll have way more real-estate.

Window tiling lets you break the large display surface up into reasonably sized pieces.

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pop OS tiling is awesome. What I always try to do on tiling WM: set workspaces and spawn specific applications on specific workspaces. Not sure if Pop OS can do it, but on i3/dwm/sway...etc. you can freely spawn your applications wherever you like.

Try to play around with those DIY tiling environment. You will have a lot of fun if you like tinkering with stuff. Maybe one day you will run EXWM

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[–] rho@anonsys.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@npdean I used bspwm for some time and really enjoyed it coming from xfce. I also felt a bit stupid to have moved windows around manually.
Briefly tried hyprland and sway.
Currently I am in love with niri.

[–] wwwgem@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tiling WMs are incredibly powerful tools for boosting productivity. Over the years, I've tried several: awesome, i3, and dwm. Eventually, I settled on bspwm, which I’ve used for years. It offers far more than you'd expect from a traditional tiling WM—especially thanks to its excellent IPC. That’s why I couldn’t switch to Wayland for the longest time—none of the available options came close to what bspwm gave me.

But just two days ago, I discovered niri, and it completely changed my perspective. It felt like the first time I ever used a tiling WM—like a whole new world had opened up.

Niri fits into the same category as bspwm but takes window management even further. It introduces infinite horizontal scrolling, a novel approach that complements traditional tiling layouts. Combined with a robust IPC (something essential for my workflow), niri allows you to arrange windows dynamically in ways I’ve never seen before—including tabbed layouts that act as a vertical counterpart to its horizontal scroll.

Here’s a short video that only scratches the surface of niri’s potential, but it’s enough to spark your imagination about how customizable and flexible it really is. Personally, I’m deeply grateful to the developers for giving me a reason—and a way—to finally switch to Wayland. I had been desperately waiting for a reliable, robust, and fully-featured tiling WM for Wayland—and what I got was a unicorn I never even imagined.

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[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do popup window notifications also tile? I have a problem with those sometimes appearing under a window and I never see them.

[–] rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

Most tiling window managers still have floating window capabilities, and notification popups will be on top of tiled windows.

[–] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People keep praising twm like a hidden secret. I have tried this multiple times without much attraction. I do not understand something. Maybe everyone has 21" screen.

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago

I have 19" screen. It saves time, especially when you open a tab for minute, then minimise it.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Windows Tiling is just having specific zones or regions defined on the screen where windows can be placed or configured to open in, correct?

I should try it out. There is a part of me that wonders if it would be worth it on a 1080p 15in laptop screen.

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know anymore. I used to think the same thing but then Popos does it automatically.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I partially get around the loss of my tiling WMs on my work PC (macbook) by leaning heavily into tmux. I know there are MacOS tiling managers like spectacles but I prefer using applications that are multiplatform so I have "transferable skills".

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

100%. Learning a crossplatform thing is always better, especially when using proprietary OS.

How useful is tmux as compared to regular tiling? It might be a bit janky, I suppose.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends how much time you spend in the terminal but if you spend a lot of time there then it can just about replace a tiling VM with a maximised terminal screen. Has full functionality to add workspaces, sessions and split windows horizontally/vertically.

[–] npdean 2 points 1 week ago

Ohh, so if I want to go full terminal, this might be better.

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