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[–] jg1i@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"a popular init system"? It's the main init system now. Look at it. Systemd is the captain now.

You'll have to learn it if you use any mainstream distro. Like at work. It is inevitable.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's what 'popular' becomes.

Note that it's often labeled as 'popular' and not 'good'.

I'm sick of redhat's internal junk. It's just to sell courses anyway.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes my work so much easier than it could've.

Imagine having to tweak sysvinit script at work.

[–] jg1i@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, nope I'll pass. Unit files for me please thank you.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

SOYSTEMD LOL 😂😂😂 (i use systemd)

[–] reedts@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If it was only an init system I'd be ok with it. But it isn't...

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You need to use its init system (systemd), its logging system (systemd-journald, and can be forwarded to old school syslog), and some dbus implementation.

If that's an unreasonable requirement for your usecase, check out OpenRC

[–] fzacq9td@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

then what would you define it as?

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's a system daemon that manages way more than an init system, hence the name "systemd".

[–] AppleMango@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The left and right one should be swapped.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I knew a Arch guy who called it Sys-dumb-d. He refused to run systemd.

I could mostly care less. It's.....fine. I miss upstart and it's simplicity. Kind of wish it had been actually developed to maturity, but here we are with an init system that also wants to do DNS.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's never been popular by anybody except RedHat, that's how they sell courses end certifications.

Still haven't found a way to start something after networking has finished when it takes a bit to set everything up. (and no, not going to limit vlans, tunnels,...)

It's a technical 'solution' for a marketing problem.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't you just set "networking" as a dependency on the unit of whatever you need started after?

[–] cowmouse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

I love how fucking lennaert subtly changed that. Who cares that it complicates classic tools.

[–] syntacticmistake@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, popular. Many distros use it and, believe it or not, most people don't care it's there. It works.