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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.nz/post/3829409

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 95 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Dark business. Why are the Brits so happy to just sit back and let this happen.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago

am british. its infuriating. a mass of the uninformed voting against the self interest for over a decade at this point.

“Torys fucking the country? Better vote for them again!”

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Because we're becoming increasingly like the US, where half of the country (or at least those who actually turn out to vote) are hellbent on voting for a party that doesn't give a single shit about their needs, just as long as they drivel out some racist shit now and again.

As @breadsmasher said, “Torys fucking the country? Better vote for them again!”

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully Reform split the brainless idiot vote in cause chaos.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

Thing is: I really, really, really do want voting reform but... I don't think I can bring myself to support Nigel Fárage.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

They still have their monarchy

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 9 months ago

Most of the country are change hating small c conservatives who genuinely believe the state knows best and is totally trustworthy. They get their news from the Daily Mail or The Sun because Britain is the best country ever. Its the mindset that ensures we still have a class system, a monarchy and brexit.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

The recent article about kids getting arrested for words and it's positive reception should give you a hint.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've found its very common for Europeans to be under the dillusion that the govt is their friend, and has their best intentions in mind.......

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Australia too. I'll never understand it, and I live here.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Definitely Australians. We're the most apathetic country in the world. Love to be controlled. Love being told what we can't do. I'm not even joking

[–] random65837@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You guys are walking the line of being prisoners. I was in NSW a couple years ago, beautiful country. Too bad its run by nutobs. After seeing the shit during COVID when the thought police were showing up at peoples houses for Facebook posts, I felt for you guys bad!

Govt's are always corrupt, but when it makes it down to the police at that 1984 level, that's when its time to pack the bags! Might as well be in China at that point.

[–] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Spot on. My wife and I are actually making plans to move overseas. I'm ready to get out of here, but she wants to wait until the next federal election to get a guage on where things will be heading. In the meantime, we're saving as much money as we possibly can, because Australia isn't the country it used to be, and it's clear that we're both deeply-incompatible with the general culture of apathy, government trust, and rules, rules, rules. It's suffocating.

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Exactly. The government isn't your friend. To your government you're a cog in the machine and nothing more - misbehave and they'll rip you out and replace you with another

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

A large portion of ~~Americans~~ everyone too.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 55 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The good news: Police are wearing body cams that they can't turn off.

The bad news: It's because the cameras are using constant facial recognition to tag everyone.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Where is the footage stored? As I am conscious it often goes missing in the US for problematic cases.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How are they tagging everyone though? Where's this database they're comparing against?

If this is like any other government project it won't work, it will cost 10 million pounds, and is developed by a company that previously specialized in the manufacture of plastic cutlery.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago

10 million pounds

Hahahaha. Gonna need a few more zeros there, bud.

specialized in the manufacture of plastic cutlery

But no actual experience in the manufacture of plastic cutlery.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago

The Met are already using it - just not (yet) on bodycams.

The company behind it, who supply the data are called Facewatch. I'm not going to link to their site but they're the ones supplying the tech and db. They did it by scraping social media sites as well as government documents and the plan is to add the UK Passport db data soon.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Where's this database they're comparing against?

Microsoft has had facial tagging and tracking software in the wild for at least a decade. It can also accurately estimate your age, race, gender, and even your mood. I'm guessing they'll probably be using that database overlaid with a criminal wanted list.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 47 points 9 months ago

Yo, Britonians: Shits on fire. Do something.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

IMO this is pretty shortsighted and going to affect all the wrong people, skimasks and balaclavas are a thing!

[–] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And so is a IR flashlight!

[–] CazRaX@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Easy enough fix for the government, just make them illegal.

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Socially acceptable, healthy, and private, win win win

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Bring back balaclavas.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Context from the article.

Each of the forces using the K-series cameras told i and Liberty Investigates that they do not, and never have, used the LFR function

Yes, it's cklearly something that we need to keep an eye on.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure they haven't. 🤦‍♂️

I commend your optimism/open mind, I've just seen the abuse by anyone in a position of authority too many times.

And I mean any authority, middle management at companies, etc. Many people struggle to resist using whatever power they have (myself included).

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think enabling the functionality would require too much back-office and vendor integration to make it a feasible lie. Too many people would know about it - and the risks from lying and saying 'not enabled' are too great.

If they had been enabled - and found out - the recommended lie would be "we are currently undertaking a small-scale trial of the technology to assess it's effectveness. We will be report on the results early next year as part of a wider public consultation into it's wider deployment". (Why yes, I have worked in public sector comms).

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Or it means they're not using that specific function, but are still gathering data and training the AI or something.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

The Met are already using it - just not (yet) on bodycams.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Where can I buy one of these cameras?

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Rishi Sunak, 10 Downing St London UK

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

He also had some oil drilling licenses for sale.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Rishi Sunak, 10 Downing St London UK

I was being serious ;)

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah...

GCHQ Cheltenham, Hubble Rd, Cheltenham, GL51 0EX

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Seriously, you're full of shit.

The second "Cheltenham" isn't nessecary, just the street address and postcode is fine.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 9 months ago

Damn, who took a dump in your coffee this morning?

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

Am I full of shit for putting down GCHQ, or for copy-pasting their address and not realising they'd added a second "Cheltenham" to it for no reason?

[–] qwadrant@lemmy.tedomum.net 4 points 9 months ago

How terrible China is in mass surveillance. After all, this is a dictatorship in China and Russia and surveillance of everyone.