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Most school shootings aren’t mass killings, study finds, and they’re often driven by community violence (www.cnn.com)

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Many Americans think of school shootings as mass casualty events involving an adolescent with an assault-style weapon. But a new study says that most recent school shootings orchestrated by teenagers do not fit that image — and they are often related to community violence.

The study, published Monday in the journal JAMA Pediatrics, analyzed 253 school shootings carried out by 262 adolescents in the US between 1990 and 2016.

It found that these adolescents were responsible for only a handful of mass casualty shootings, defined as those involving four or more gunshot fatalities. About half of the shootings analyzed — 119 — involved at least one death. Among the events, seven killed four or more people.

A majority of the shootings analyzed also involved handguns rather than assault rifles or shotguns, and they were often the result of “interpersonal disputes,” according to the researchers from University of South Carolina and University of Florida.

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[-] IzzyScissor@kbin.social 39 points 7 months ago

Jesus Fucking Christ, pick a side, article:

Average age of shooter was 16
"It’s not really about gun ownership"
More than half of the shooters got the firearm they used from a family member or a relative. About 30% got a weapon from the illegal market, while 22% obtained weapons from friends or acquaintances.

So 70% got it through someone who legally owned the gun already, and 30% bought it illegally. A 16 year old cannot purchase a gun legally.

SURE SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE OWNING A GUN IS A FACTOR, THEN, HUH

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 17 points 7 months ago

If you expect me to secure my guns properly, then that makes it more difficult for me to imagine the totally bitchin' scenario where dozens of armed criminals break into my house and have need to immediately defend my family like John Wick

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

People are downvoting you, because you called their logical and well thought out plans a fantasy. You are a big meanie to dash their dreams like that.

/s for sarcasm

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[-] Rivalarrival 24 points 7 months ago

Is "community violence" the politically correct terminology for blaming gangs?

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Probably. I've been saying it for a while now, the root cause of gun violence in the US is socioeconomic inequality and lack of mental healthcare.

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[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

The fact that there is enough statistics for this study to happen is fucked up.

[-] Chestrade@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Jeez, imagine having that much data between 1990 and 2016.

[-] rrrurboatlibad@lemdro.id 7 points 7 months ago

So, I read the CNN article and the CNN-linked journal paper it was based on and I don't understand how the CNN aithor, Amanda Musa, was able to read the journal article and jump to her conclusions except through overwhelming prejudice and bias. Holy cow, this is irresponsible reporting. From the journal article itself, here is a relevantbsummary:

Overall, these findings stress the critical public health message concerning the secure storage of firearms, especially in households with adolescents. Our study suggests that initiatives limiting adolescent access to firearms, such as child access prevention laws or efforts to decrease illegal gun trafficking, might effectively prevent school shooting incidents.23,24 Furthermore, hospital-based initiatives centered on screening for firearm accessibility and exposure for inpatients could be fruitful in preventing gun violence, both inside and outside schools.25

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

I've been saying this for years now, and everyone just wants to say "GUNS BAD BAN GUNS".

Fix the root issues, and you solve the problem. If you don't address root problems, then you only change the way that the problem manifests. You could remove guns, and then you'd see a rash of stabbings, with calls for parents to lock their kitchen knives in safes, and bans on knives with blades over 2".

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Are you saying there are no poor or crazy people in places like England? Because there are plenty of them, they just don't have guns.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I am not. In fact, England (and Australia) both have an overall rate of violent crime--murder, battery, robbery, forcible rape--that's quite comparable to the US. If you remove murder from the equation entirely, then England and Australia appear to have more violent crime than the US. Their crime is less lethal, but they're have more of it. Despite the fact that, e.g. England bans carrying pocket knives for fear of knife crime. But both countries have very similar problems to the US, although Australia seems to have a mostly functional NHS, despite the constant attempts to cut funding. (England's NHS is far, far less functional now than it was.)

If England and Australia were to adjust their system of governance and taxation to address the underlying issues, then it's likely that they'd have far less violent crime.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Their crime is less lethal,

So you agree that guns are the problem.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

He also accidentally admitted that private gun ownership does nothing to prevent violent crime, given that "violent crime rates are comparable" between America and countries that don't let insane death cults write their laws.

He tried to walk it back saying "actually the other countries are worse" but a quick look at the figures show they're all within a few percent for things like rape and assault, until you get to America with its 400% higher homicide rate.

Some of that isn't even well hidden, with "robbery" being included in his list of violent crimes, despite the low number of people killed during property thefts in Australia and the U.K.

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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Well if this isn't some pro gun anti black propaganda I don't know what is.

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