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‘Shocking’ poll in England and Wales shows nearly one in five reluctant to hire women they think may go on to have children

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[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Alternative headline, "Six out of seven HR heads think either think gender is irrelevant or prefer women in top jobs".

If even 14% of children prefer peanut butter over almond butter, there's a bias problem, amirite? We must do something about the bias against almond butter!

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Keep in mind these are only the ones willing to admit openly that they're biased against women doing top jobs. Others just don't hire women without acknowledging it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

HR hires people where you work?

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mine does, HR has a LOT of power in some places.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Interesting. Well TIL

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

mine does not make the hiring decision but they are involved in initial weeding of resumes.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

And yet more women are being hired in high paying jobs than men, and more women are going to college than men. The imbalance is worse than the one that brought title 9 into existence.

I'm still waiting for the call to resolve the plight of men. The usual response i hear goes from "great!" To "they need to man up and work harder". All I hear is how men are the problem, looking at women can bring harassment charges, and women deriding men on social media being cheered.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of the “1 out of 4 homeless people are women” ad.

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If even 14% of children prefer peanut butter over almond butter, there's a bias problem, amirite? We must do something about the bias against almond butter!

This is a false equivalence. It's fine if some kids have a preferred butter. It's not so fine if some HR heads have a belief that men are better suited to top jobs.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

It is mentioned to highlight the absurdity of the use of dark patterns in propaganda. Tell me, what do you think the response to "1 in 7 HR heads think men aren't good for profitability in top roles"?

If you think that would generate outrage, you are delusional. I frequently see comments and policies discriminatory to men applauded and "kill all men" comments ignored or even liked.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was actually thinking this was a good sign as its such a minority. It was not to long ago it was common and thinking women were just as good was the minority. Im not sure if we will ever purge all the archaic types. I mean there is a group that advocates for monarchies.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I clicked through and read the article, and it is dipping with shock and outrage that anybody prefers male candidates.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

HR's entire purpose is to protect corporations and pay everyone else as little as possible. 99% of people that work in HR are bootlickers that are bad for our society.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I was curious to see if this opinion was more common in men than women (or vice versa) but it doesn't look like the article says. Does anyone know if there's a paper on the study?

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

1 in 7 eh? Terrible deduction.

[–] Whoresradish@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Why does the guardian never link to it's shocking studies? Can anyone find this study or how it was made?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Irrelevant. The fact that these "top jobs" exist in the first place is something worthy of discussion - which people happen to be "suited" (whatever that means) to these positions isn't.