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[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

As an aside nice camera work by the OP. Thankfully I saw it muted. Second watch was with sound so I could hear the chopper. French screaming confirmed.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Damn, I wonder how the pilot got caught up on that? Here in California, a firefighting helicopter dipping like that happens a hundred times a day in the summer and there has never been such a crash.

Edit: it looks like the error happened just before/right when the video starts. The pilot dropped waaaay too fast and didn’t give enough time for the ground effect to reduce before going in for a dip. There was no saving that crash like 10 seconds before it happened.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not an expert, but I suspect they descended into their own vortex, and went into a vortex ring state, and subsequently lost lift.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_ring_state

that two little birds on the bottom..

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago

Crazy fucking video !

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago

As soon as that tail rotor hits ANYTHING, it's all over.

[–] MinorLaceration@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not exactly a helicopter guy, but I think that might have been what they call settling woth power. Vortecies on the rotor kill the lift when you decend through your own rotor wash.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

I've flown helicopters before, and that's exactly what I thought as well. Either that, or a serious misjudgement by the pilot.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, also not an expert, but you can see the weird acceleration & how suddenly it got lift again.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there a reason why the scoop has to be attached so close to the helicopter? Feels like just a couple of meters of slack could make a difference in performing that maneuver. Of course I'm not sure about the physics of it; extra weight, extra points of failure, but if it could save the helicopter and potentially lives of crew, surely it's better for the scoop/attachments to fail so they can fight fires another day?

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Not a pilot, but I feel that might make takeoff and landing more risky though. Long ropes and helicopter rotors dont mix well.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago

Heli-nerd here. Long lining is actually very common and the recommended way of doing heli lifts. Long lines can vary between 25 feet and 400 feet.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not any kind of expert, but it seems to me the longer the line the more the bucket will act like a pendulum, especially when it's full.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I get that could be an issue but I've seen helicopters with much longer scoops flying about. Granted they were mostly military or fire rescue with similar design clearly meant to lift much more weight - hence why my thoughts went the route of weight limitations.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago
[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wow. Really puts into perspective how risky that maneuver is in the first place. It's probably worth the risk if it's effective at fighting fires, but you have to get the height just right to scoop the water without crashing.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago

More the angle of approach & hope for normal crosswinds.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit - Whoops wasn't meant to be a response to you