Interesting, but I only really trade in frozen concentrated orange juice futures.
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How are the crop reports looking?
Beeks! What happened to Beeks?
It really depends on which version of the report got delivered.
Have you looked into gourds? I heard lots of good things about them.
hi, what does this reference? Ive been seeing oranges vs gourds for some time now
If the carton isn't lying and I'm getting "Real Florida Orange Juice," I sure hope it wasn't on a ship. That would be a wild logistics chain just to send it West.
But also: I can drive around orange orchards in my area. Where's the "Real California Orange Juice?" Motherfuckers be putting it on ships and sending it to Florida, I bet.
I think, and don't quote me on this - we grow better oranges in CA, so they are sold as actual oranges for eating.
Not necessarily better but definitely different, California has a dryer milder climate that renders a thicker peel and sweeter fruit in Valencia oranges which is a contrast to Florida's hotter and wetter climate producing juicier, tarter fruit with a thinner peel. But yes California has "table" oranges and Florida has "juice" oranges
https://sciencing.com/difference-between-florida-california-oranges-7517478.html
Also California production is outpacing Florida production because of premature fruit drop due to climate change, and less available labor due to a migrant labor shortage.
https://citrusinsider.org/2023/05/22/florida-production-numbers-serve-as-californias-warning-signal/
Yo! Thanks for bringing the receipts. Love me some thicc sweet oranges.
I think you should go home now, Devin. Take a right on San Vincente, cross the bridge, then take the 405 north until you can’t take it anymore.
Whuuuuut are YEUNH doing heeeere?
That’s why I don’t like the oranges out west! Thanks for this TIL.
Grown in Florida, Peeled in Ecuador, packaged in China, sold in Utah.
Supposedly some of it goes to Oregon, but for the most part I think the US isn't part of this supply chain.
I'm just being silly 😋
Pretty wild! I suppose it's efficient or they wouldn't be doing it.
As to environmental damage? Probably a small blast radius. OJ is mildly acidic, but like sulphric acid, citric acid is highly soluble in water (what's the chemistry term for that?!). If there's any water movement, it's going to disperse with the quickness. Be a bad scene if it got in a bay or somewhere where the water is relatively stagnant, but still, it dilutes fast.
Plus, marine life can be tougher than we think. It's not comparable to a sensitive 55G tank in your living room. OTOH, fish kills are a thing. Crazy sardine kill on Hokkaido day before, probably from the earthquake.
No idea how the fructose dump would work out. 🤷🏻♂️
Pretty wild! I suppose it’s efficient or they wouldn’t be doing it.
Seems to be, considering they are running several juice ships pretty much constantly. I imagine well handled frozen juice concentrate has a lower chance to spoil than whole fruit and takes up a lot less space, but packaging it in Brazil just to transport it to Australia isn't worth it compared to shipping the juice, putting it on trucks, and letting Australia package it.
No idea how the fructose dump would work out.
How else do we get ADHD dolphins?
I seem to remember milk is on a higher level of pollution danger than gasoline. I can't (in a super quick Google) find confirmation of that, but I found this link talking about milk using up all the available oxygen in water and killing fish. I don't imagine a billion gallons of OJ doing any favors to waterways.
I think it’s a matter of scales.
A tanker truck of milk can saturate a small stream, but a ship full of OJ is still a drop in the ocean.
Actually it would be a tanker ship in an ocean.
You're a proponent of "dilution is the solution to pollution" I guess.
That's pretty highfalutin!
Orange juice doesn't really retain flavor for very long. Most use added flavors. If you've ever bought orange juice from an orchard in florida you'll know the difference. Doesn't seem to really be practical to do this but I guess people prefer non-frozen for the name at least.
Mostly seems to be shipping concentrate at exactly 0 degrees Celsius to Europe and Australia.
A friend of mine worked on the control system for a new "Oranjoduct". A bona fide refrigerated OJC to a port. It's wild.
Username checks out. Also maybe naranjaduct?
Laranjoduto de São Paulo
Ah Portuguese. My Spanish proficiency is low enough.