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[-] Ecksell@lemmy.one 82 points 6 months ago

I hope I dont need to upgrade my Sound Blaster audio card!

[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Still rocking my SoundBlaster X-fi Titanium Fatal1ty edition. It’s not necessary, but I have it and it still works, so I may as well use it.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago

Wow, that's gotta be like, 15 years old by now? Creative stopped using the Fatal1ty branding around 2010, I think!

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

that would be awesome.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 3 points 6 months ago

The AWE32 was the best sound card ever change my mind.

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[-] simple@lemm.ee 45 points 6 months ago

I'm a bit baffled that some people still use HDDs considering how cheap SSDs have gotten. You can get a 2TB M.2 for around $100. If you've got the specs for new games, there's no excuse.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm baffled that some people update their hardware before it stops working.

But then I just keep playing old games that run on my system, so I'm probably not the target demographic.

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I mean I play pretty much exclusively old and 2D games. If you asked me to give up my SSD or my GPU, the GPU would be the first to go.

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I've seen too many people spend more money keeping a system alive than they would have spent upgrading to modern hardware and I refuse to be like them.

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[-] rasensprenger@feddit.de 17 points 6 months ago

I can get a 10TB HDD for under 250€, and there are some technical advantages. For example, if you have an ssd lying around unpowered, it will lose data much quicker than magnetic storage

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

You run programs or operating systems off that 10 TB HDD?

[-] ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

I have a 6TB one and yes mostly for single player games since loading screens typically aren't that big of a deal. OS always goes on your best drive and you know you can have multiple drives in a singular pc since you are sort of implying you can only have 1 drive.

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[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

The PS4 has an HDD, and only partway through its life upgraded from SATA2 to SATA3 even.

Personally, I've got my boot drive, plus a 2TB SATA3 SSD for games that benefit from it's plus a 12TB HDD for the vast majority of games that don't need it (or to temporarily store games- it's faster to move them between drives than re-doenload them). So if I was planning on playing this games hearing this from the devs would let me know I need to free up some SSD space.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago

The PS4 has an HDD, and only partway through its life upgraded from SATA2 to SATA3 even.

And has load times measured in minutes on many games.

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[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Games keep getting bigger and bigger. This game is expected to be about 100GB, and that's not uncommon for modern AAA games. The CoD games have been over 200GB for a while now. Previous FF games have been similar size. RDR2 was 120GB.

I would expect most people playing FF16 on PC to have a small SSD drive with their OS, key programs, and maybe a couple of games, then a HDD for bulk storage.

I'm not interested in the FF series, but if I was this message from the devs means "clear up some space on your SSD". Which can sometimes be an inconvenience.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

It’s because the upgrade for this console generation was an SSD

[-] Centillionaire@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

It is an inconvenience. AAA games will alway try to push hardware, and SSDs just happen to be one of the things that can do that.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

i don't play 'new' games, i don't have the hardware for them. most my gear is older salvaged stuff that didn't cost me anything to get. between constant rent increases and the cost of groceries these days, i simply can't afford to upgrade unless i get lucky and salvage something useful.

[-] Numpty@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago

You're not the target market for FF16 then.

[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

SSD's with more than a 500gb-1tb start to get way more expensive than hard drives

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

SSD for newish games, OS, and programs, HDD for videos, photos, music, and old games.

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[-] zhenbo_endle@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

I’m a bit baffled that some people still use HDDs considering how cheap SSDs have gotten. You can get a 2TB M.2 for around $100. If you’ve got the specs for new games, there’s no excuse.

I don't know why you got some downvotes. Buying an SSD to store the latest games is much more cheaper than buying a GPU. If one already has a powerful GPU, I don't know why they consider an SSD "not affordable"

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If you’re just buying a terabyte or two of storage there’s absolutely no reason to buy spinning rust at this point. If you want many terabytes of storage 12tb+ hard drives are going to be a fair bit cheaper than SSDs currently. SSDs have been rapidly dropping in price and increasing in capacity, though, so hopefully it just gets more and more cost effective to have a bunch of storage with SSDs.

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[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

In 2023/4 you should not be running a hdd in your gaming machine anyway, SSDs are so affordable now

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[-] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Oh no, does that mean I have to replace my Radio Shack CTR-41 cassette drive?

[-] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

I actually had a TRS-80 III with a tape drive back in the day. Not a great way to store data.

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[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 20 points 6 months ago

I probably also need at least a dual core CPU.

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 3 points 6 months ago

Same with GPU...

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

ITT: people bragging about the 32 GB they paid $700 for so Oblivion would load faster.

If you dropped five grand on a PC a decade ago, yeah, of course you've used SSDs exclusively. Each gigabyte only cost two bucks! Meanwhile, on hard disks: ten cents.

If you built a PC three years ago, SSDs were finally approaching that ten-cent figure... while HDDs were pushing two cents per gigabyte.

The gap is closing. The low end for SSDs is trivially affordable, now. Key word: now. There's no reason not to have your OS on SSD, now. And the capacity of spinning plates can only be pushed so far within a 3.5" module. There will be a point where there's no reason to buy new disks. But if I want another dozen terabytes for network storage, like hell I'm gonna pony up for neon-spangled M.2 drives. $200 versus $600... how badly do I need those milliseconds?

[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de 14 points 6 months ago

So what? I accidentally installed Baldur's Gate 3 on a hard disk and it was unplayable, because the assets took ages to load. Transferred everything over to an NVMe drive and it's butter smooth. Just don't put anything that requires interaction on a hard disk and get with the times and plop in an SSD. Best bang for your buck in terms of an upgrade with a massively noticable effect.

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

this is nothing new... fuck game journalism

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 8 points 6 months ago

Don't fucking dare me! My fucking magnetic tape drive does the job just fine!

[-] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Are you telling me I should stop gaming using a raid10 set made from 8x500GB HDDs?

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I haven’t had an HDD since around 2004, maybe 2002. Sure I cant keep tons of big games installed, but decent internet makes that not really an issue.

[-] GarytheSnail@programming.dev 16 points 6 months ago

What were you storing your stuff on?

The first reasonable sized consumer ssds I remember were the original ocz line. What was it like onyx or agility? And that wasnt until almost 2010 ish.

2002 seems suuuuper early.

[-] srecko@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago
[-] GarytheSnail@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

I haven’t had an FDD since around 1950, maybe 1970. Sure I cant keep tons of short songs installed, but decent radio makes that not really an issue.

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

That’s super early to have adopted SSDs solely, no?

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah it is, and Windows didn’t get TRIM support for SSDs until Windows 7 in 2009.

The MacBook Air didn’t even get SSDs until 2008, and I believe it was the first mass-produced consumer computer with an SSD. Linux also got support around that time.

I’m skeptical unless OP’s dad worked somewhere that had enterprise drives to discard… and allowed drives to disappear.

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