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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wait, did a big-name project that said they were going to implement ActivityPub actually implement ActivityPub?

Part of me wants to say props to them. Part of me can't help but wonder if it's part of a 90s-era Microsoft embrace-extend-extingush strategy.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Part of me can't help but wonder if it's part of a 90s-era Microsoft embrace-extend-extingush strategy

That's exactly it.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How would they extinguish though? By proposing changes to the protocol that smaller instances can’t implement? At the moment if you didn’t want to be in Threads you just don’t have to be.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Google pulled this off with XMPP by having their Google Groups bridge be horribly maintained, feature incomplete, and randomly go down for days at a time. Most of the people on XMPP were on Google Groups so to them it just looked like the few people who actually hosted their own XMPP servers randomly went offline. It got to the point where people who used XMPP would have to create an account on Google Groups in order to reliably be able to talk to their friends. Google Groups users eventually came to the conclusion that it was XMPP that was unreliable.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fair, didn’t think about the “no u” strategy

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

That's the same strategy they're going with for MV3, I believe

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By having many more users than the rest of the fediverse combined, basically becoming the default twitter replacement most new users flock to. They'd be taking up all the available "oxygen" as Mastodon withers away and dies.

If just 1/100 of their users who they've automatically given accounts use Threads regularly, there's a big risk of that happening.

[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago

idk if it can, because a lot of ppl who are currently on mastodon, are there because they wanted to get away from platforms like twitter and threads. these users will stay no matter what and would prefer not being able to see the content from threads or whatever other corporate social media might join the fediverse, over switching to those instances.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 31 points 10 months ago

90s-era Microsoft

They still do it, just less frequently and not as successfully. Linux? WSL. Chromium? Edge.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 10 months ago

these people are gonna have a hell of a time trying to interact with the regular mastodon userbase lol

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Never forget, Facebook (now Meta) had the chance to federate with Friendica but closed the tap ~2015, once more people started joining Friendica. Their mission is to make money, not friends.

It's kind of hard to pin down the histories of these things, since they aren't written about in any blogs that I can find, but here's a GitHub PR referencing this issue:

Since the Facebook connectors aren't supported anymore, they are now removed. Statusnet has been renamed to GNU Social and the API documentation has been updated.

Emphasis mine.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's a frendica and do I need to download it

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Fedi Facebook, basically, and no. See: https://friendi.ca/

[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can't see it from my instance (mstdn.social) yet.

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's because it's suspended from your instance. Many instances are blocking threads since. Yknow. Facebook. Privacy and such.

Also the whole "committing a coup". And the "actively spreading discord". And- you know what I'll just stop there

[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hope admin won't allow it.

[–] kzhe@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I personally want to at least play around with this, does anyone know any instances who'll for sure federate?

[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

I mean, there's always your own, if you want to

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago