this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Strong argument the bar operator was likely impaired, seems much more likely the guy drove his building into the cop car than the cop being at fault...

ROFL

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Oh no person in bar is impaired and then you drove into the building forcing them to leave so now it's public intox. Cop deserved the "punch"

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The police probable cause statement associated with the charges against Bar:PM co-owner Chad Morris (who also goes by Chad Wick) alleges that Morris began to "scream obscenities" in the wake of the collision. The officer writes that Morris "struck me hard in the chest with an open hand, causing me to temporarily lose my balance." Morris then allegedly tried to flee into a gangway between the bar and another building, closing a gate on an officer as he did, according to the statement.

Not that I blame the guy for being pissed after a cop rammed his business.

As for Morris, Pence said that he was filming the crash scene when three officers "went for him." "He raised his arm and they said he hit them," Pence said.

Or the cops lieing for the gazillionith time.

Regardless why wasn't the cop who was driving charged? He ran into a freaking building for no apparent reason.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Stl's finest

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The fact that he was denied bond over so little...

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How stupid of these pigs. This will end up being a huge payday for the bar owner.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They don't care. It's the taxpayers who foot the bill.