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These laws will ban rewards for spending money within a game for the first time, ban rewards for buying consecutive microtransactions, and ban rewards for daily log-ins.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 127 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I would've expected to see something like thus out of the EU rather than China, but at least somebody's making the first move against the predatory monetisation of apps

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If only those "think of the children" politicians would do this instead of attempting to ban encryption.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago

You know you look really bad when the CCP shows you up!

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[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago

If China's plan is successful, other countries will follow suit.

PS: RIP my free intertwined fates in Gaming (Jiaming) Impact.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What's predatory about this? This seems like the least forced purchase in the world -- absolutely nobody needs the things they're selling. They are like a definition of a luxury item.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 106 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's so destructive that even China doesn't like it

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s so destructive that even China doesn’t like it

They probably love that it's hurting competing nations, though.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tencent is a Chinese company

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tencent is a Chinese company

Yes and the new rules apply to the Chinese domestic market. Tencent is free to do harm western teens.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well they can hardly pass laws controlling other jurisdictions

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[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] filister@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Didn't China also recently introduce a limit of hours adolescents can game?

The world would be a better place without those transactions in my opinion. It might sound extreme but in my view this is the first step towards gambling addiction.

We as humanity are becoming really obsessed with everything digital instead of spending more time physically interacting with our peers. And unfortunately I am no exception.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 years ago

Part of the problem is that there's no incentive for game companies to ensure that players are of an appropriate age and are gambling responsibly. It's a Pandora's box of capitalism in the same way fossil fuels, cigarettes, and big pharma are. Their customers have a demand for their product which is driven by a physiological/psychological/socioeconomic need, so they aren't subject to normal market mechanics.

[–] Konraddo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Not recently, but yes.

Also, there's regulation to disclose the probability in getting rewards from opening "chests", which is actually gambling in nature.

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

In 2019, it was limited to 90 minutes on weekdays and not between the hours of 10 pm to 8 am.

In 2021, it was changed to 1 hour per day, only on Fridays, weekends, and public holidays.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If there's a behavior psychologist/researcher involved in the creation of a product, it's evil, simple as. Those gacha games absolutely use them.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 13 points 2 years ago

I think you could go two ways with that. The psychologist could be under a mandate to give feedback to ensure your game is not going to be an addiction or they could be under a mandate to make it as addictive as possible. The latter is way more likely but I wouldn't totally rule out the value add of any psychologist to any game.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago
[–] Wahots@pawb.social 44 points 2 years ago

God, I hope they do that here. Would clear the appstores and other stores of 90% of shovelware overnight.

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The S$20000 ($15000) Genshin Impact buying spree incident in Singapore had indirectly contributed to proposed legislation.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Which part of china is Singapore in?

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

A lot of games are starting to display warnings to spend wisely when purchasing premium currency.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Limiting micro transactions and banning predatory reward schemes in video games is genuinely a good thing. We need this to spread around the world.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago

There's so much addiction and gambling engineered into micro transactions, it's crazy. I'm glad China is regulating it.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Well done, I hope other countries will follow.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Assuming it's a clock that's capable of being right twice a day, which isn't every clock.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 years ago

A clock whizzing backwards at 60 RPM is right 86,400 times a day!

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[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Good. These kinds of transactions are exploitative and prey in the weaknesses of people with addictive personalities

[–] Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago

Do you all expect localization is tied to laws for china? I realy don't think so. Most games are split into global and asia/chinese versions anyway. Why should they remove these mechanics when it isn't necessary for the market they operate in?

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This will also make for better and more enjoyable games. I wonder if players will want to spend more times with those games then.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Chinese government actually does something right for once? My year is saved.

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[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It'd be nice to see that come to rocket League. You know, the game where they removed crates because of the gambling, then removed trading to get kids to spend more money in the shop. So much better :/

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