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[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean what do we expect, these men had problems before war and now they have these problems plus a war trauma and now that Wagner might not have the money to keep all of them, they are on the streets with no job and not much money and probably no help for the trauma.

There will be a huge amount of men that weren't in prison that come home with a war trauma and/or severe injuries and not much help, which then creates gererational trauma in their families. That's why wars do not just end, but live long inside a country after the actual war has stopped. It is worse if you fight in a war that is seen by most people as an attack and a crime, it can make the trauma more severe.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i emphasize with the women and children of russia who are gonna have to deal with this. a good chunk of a generation of men are gone, dead or fled, and the ones who do come back are gonna be broken men. things are gonna get worse in russia before they get better.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

During the medieval times, yes absolutely.

[–] tal@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know that Imperial Russia using prisoners to fight was a thing in the Russo-Japanese War, around 1908 or so, so that wasn't nearly that far back.

EDIT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Sakhalin

The Japanese occupied Sakhalin with minimal effort and low losses. The Russians suffered 181 dead and had 3,270 taken prisoner. The reasons for the low Russian resistance lay in the low morale of the soldiers, who were mostly prisoners and deportees with little or no military training.

[–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This sounds like the start of a Death Wish movie.

[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin's vision of a normal society is fucking stupid. How did a Russian mafia take control of the government?

[–] Muetzenman@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

πŸŒπŸ‘¨β€πŸš€πŸ”«πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€ allways has been.

The zars, Sowjetunion and putins dictatorship. It was allways the elites sharing the countries wealth and not giving a shit about the people.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wait until it becomes organized murder, rape and domestic violence with military training.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The vast majority ended up fighting for Wagner group, the private army run by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who in June went rogue and launched an armed mutiny that sent shock waves through the Russian political system before it was aborted.

As part of the deal, convicts were told that if they fought for six months and survived, they would be allowed to go back to normal life without serving the rest of their sentences.

It is not clear whether Kanyus is still fighting, but it certainly appears he is still alive, as he has posted regular updates to an account on VKontakte, a Russian social media network.

Samoilov’s mother told 29.ru, a local news site in Russia’s Arkhangelsk region, that her son had fought and been injured in Ukraine, and had now been pardoned.

β€œHe was sent there, served for six months and in accordance with the law has now been released early,” the head of the North Ossetia region, Sergei Menyailo, confirmed in a press conference earlier this year, adding that in Tekhov’s place, he would not have returned home.

The family’s refusal to stay quiet meant the case resonated with the public, and the police who failed to show up to the repeated calls for help from the neighbours were even tried for negligence.


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[–] AutomaticJack@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

This is a terrible summary and barely makes sense.

The article isn't long and it's worth reading.

[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The TLDR bot in here posted an article that seems more in line with someone with narcolepsy summarizing the article.

[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I felt like I watched a "Previously on" segment on a season finale without having watched the season.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago
[–] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’d better get some support program for those people entering civil life and soon

[–] sgx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Would you send every veteran to prison, too?